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    Default The Tigers Set with their Position Roster?




    Per Becks blog in regards to them missing out on Cespedes:

    Tigers had contract talks on Cespedes « Beck's Blog

    So...we know who we have for the year.

    The question is who plays where and for how long I guess.

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    First Base:


    Second Base:


    Thiird Base:


    Short Stop:


    Right Field:


    Center Field:


    Left Field:


    Designated Hitter:

    (for the Raburn lovers...I was just poking some fun at the guy with that pic)
    Who are the others?

    Dirks
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    As far as a starting line up goes...this looks about right doesn't it? Maybe flip DY and Raburn and a small possibility Worth for Santiago?

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    And I know it says 'position roster', but to add to this the starting 4: (edit didnt know you were only allowed 10 images per post.)

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    The players look right. I like the roster. A lot of different combinations you could use.

    Also, I am not a Raburn lover, but I would MUCH rather see him in LF and Young at DH if given the choice.

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    There is to be no mention of Cespedes in this thread, as the the thread starter is sick of talking about him.... : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmwatkin View Post
    The players look right. I like the roster. A lot of different combinations you could use.

    Also, I am not a Raburn lover, but I would MUCH rather see him in LF and Young at DH if given the choice.
    So would I TBH, but I am not sure if that is how it plays out. Plus it would mean less chances Raburn plays 2b.

    I could see DY DH'n more often that not.
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    I tend to think LF is wide open to be won or lost in ST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euphdude View Post
    There is to be no mention of Cespedes in this thread, as the the thread starter is sick of talking about him.... : )
    lol

    Come on! You have to admit it was getting a little tedious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehringer_2 View Post
    I tend to think LF is wide open to be won or lost in ST.
    Can you envision a scenario where DY or Raburn do not play alot?

    I agree LF is the toughest to predict right now with Raburn, Dirks, Young, Kelly etc etc.

    But if you had to guess would it be either Raburn or DY? If not either of those guys what happens to Raburn who would most likely be the odd man out to start the year.
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    You know what I'd like:

    Cut Delmon. Raburn to DH, Sandy to 2B (Worth backup), Dirks in LF
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Brian_K View Post
    lol

    Come on! You have to admit it was getting a little tedious.
    When I was tired of discussing him I ignored the Cespedes thread. I always thought it was a long shot we'd sign him, and that he'd be a high risk for the money he would demand.

    Regardless, we can move on and discuss what kind of lineups we can arrange with the roster we have at hand, which should remain pretty static from here on out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Brian_K View Post
    Can you envision a scenario where DY or Raburn do not play alot?

    I agree LF is the toughest to predict right now with Raburn, Dirks, Young, Kelly etc etc.

    But if you had to guess would it be either Raburn or DY? If not either of those guys what happens to Raburn who would most likely be the odd man out to start the year.
    I can see a scenario where Raburn is gone by mid-season. He has to prove that it really was his finger holding him back last spring. If he fails to do that -- and I'm not saying it's likely -- I certainly can envision Worth and Dirks both playing well enough to make him odd man out - sent packing for a PTBNL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euphdude View Post
    When I was tired of discussing him I ignored the Cespedes thread. I always thought it was a long shot we'd sign him, and that he'd be a high risk for the money he would demand.

    Regardless, we can move on and discuss what kind of lineups we can arrange with the roster we have at hand, which should remain pretty static from here on out.
    It was one of the top threads for awhile. It was always at the top so I always checked in because I knew the news would break here before anywhere else. It is really a 'hats off' type moment to this forum for me.

    I agree it will be fairly static. 2b and LF are now the positions to look at which really hasn't changed with the news, but at least we can rule out 'he we do not speak of' from here on out.

    Someone pointed it out in another thread, but we really have 7 guys trying out for splits at 3 positions FL/2B/DH.

    Dirks
    Worth
    Santiago
    DY
    Raburn
    Kelly

    And where the hell does that leave Inge? All of these guys would be good utility type players to insert in a line up and maybe get 60 starts a year or something, but we need 3 starting players from these guys.

    DY is going to be one of em IMO so is Raburn and Santiago.

    Maybe Worth/Dirks give the other guys days off throughout the year. Maybe they get 50 starts or so each? Leyland is a master of giving guys days off etc IMO so I think the flexibility will leave plenty of guys fresh at the end of the year.

    I wonder if Leyland is thinking of playing Kelly at thiird over Inge when he rests Cabby and makes Cabby the DH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehringer_2 View Post
    I can see a scenario where Raburn is gone by mid-season. He has to prove that it really was his finger holding him back last spring. If he fails to do that -- and I'm not saying it's likely -- I certainly can envision Worth and Dirks both playing well enough to make him odd man out - sent packing for a PTBNL
    I never understood people's obsession with Danny Worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Brian_K View Post
    It was one of the top threads for awhile. It was always at the top so I always checked in because I knew the news would break here before anywhere else. It is really a 'hats off' type moment to this forum for me.

    I agree it will be fairly static. 2b and LF are now the positions to look at which really hasn't changed with the news, but at least we can rule out 'he we do not speak of' from here on out.

    Someone pointed it out in another thread, but we really have 7 guys trying out for splits at 3 positions FL/2B/DH.

    Dirks
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    Santiago
    DY
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    Kelly

    And where the hell does that leave Inge? All of these guys would be good utility type players to insert in a line up and maybe get 60 starts a year or something, but we need 3 starting players from these guys.

    DY is going to be one of em IMO so is Raburn and Santiago.

    Maybe Worth/Dirks give the other guys days off throughout the year. Maybe they get 50 starts or so each? Leyland is a master of giving guys days off etc IMO so I think the flexibility will leave plenty of guys fresh at the end of the year.

    I wonder if Leyland is thinking of playing Kelly at thiird over Inge when he rests Cabby and makes Cabby the DH?
    It really comes down to Worth vs. Inge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmwatkin View Post
    It really comes down to Worth vs. Inge.
    To make the roster, but how about starters and the number of games we think they may play?
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    I like the way this was done, and in order too, but you screwed up the outfield order. :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Brian_K View Post
    To make the roster, but how about starters and the number of games we think they may play?
    I think it would be pretty equal. Worth has the ability to play 2B or SS, but he would be third on the depth charts at either position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmwatkin View Post
    I never understood people's obsession with Danny Worth.
    I can't say I've ever gotten the impression anyone was obsessed with Worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmwatkin View Post
    It really comes down to Worth vs. Inge.
    Does Worth have any minor league options left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euphdude View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger337 View Post
    Which outfield is better- Tigers or Athletics?
    Dunno .. we only know 2/3 of ours so far....
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    Quote Originally Posted by STLTiger69 View Post
    Does Worth have any minor league options left?
    I think he has one left. I believe he was added to the 40-man roster in 2010

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    I think it will be Dirks platooning with Young in left unless Dirks has a bad spring. Young would be the DH when he's not in left. I think Raburn will split time at second with Santiago with Raburn getting the majority of at bats if things go well. Leyland will probably play the pitcher/defense matchups there.
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    I would guess Dirks or Thomas gets most of the LF appearances by virtue of the platoon advantage.
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    Did you ever explain the "thiird" thing?

    Getting sick of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehringer_2 View Post
    I tend to think LF is wide open to be won or lost in ST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjd View Post
    Did you ever explain the "thiird" thing?

    Getting sick of it.
    It's how Jim Price says "third".
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    Thanks for starting this thread, about time we get to discussing the final 25. You omitted Laird,
    so if the Tigers carry twelve pitchers, then their "bench" would be Dirks, Kelly, Laird, and either Inge or Worth.

    We might see a lot of Dirks, though.

    I'd prefer that the Tigers only carry 11 pitchers, then they could run a very right-handed lineup out there against LHP,
    and spot Worth once in a while against lefties. Having Inge, Kelly, and Worth provides a ton of position flexibility.

    Versus LHP you could do something like this:
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    I'd prefer Dirks in left and Delmon to DH
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    I definitely would DH Delmon, at least anytime a RH is pitching (Dirks in LF)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger337 View Post
    It's how Jim Price says "third".
    No, with Price, it's "thiiiird".
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    The only position up for graps will be Inge vs. Worth (as said by others). If Inge does not step up and offer to play more than third base he has absolutely no value to the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjd View Post
    Did you ever explain the "thiird" thing?

    Getting sick of it.
    I am so glad I'm not the only one that has noticed this!
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    Jim could go with 11 p's based on light early schedule and (hopefully) our sp's ability to go deep. Depends somewhat on how reliable our 5th SP is.
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    Andy Dirks will bat .275 with 18 HR and 72 RBI as the Starting Left Fielder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonjd View Post
    Did you ever explain the "thiird" thing?

    Getting sick of it.
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    I am so glad I'm not the only one that has noticed this!
    Maybe he's not getting enough attention from his mommy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Mitchell View Post
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    Only if he gets 600 at bats, and can deliver throughout. He might be one of those guys who you can't give more than 350 ABs to.

    The other concern is his fielding, which was not good in 2011. Left field is not generally a concern defensively, but it would be nice to at least have someone as good as the low end of average -- that is, if we do not have plus-hitting out of the position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasfh View Post
    Maybe he's not getting enough attention from his mommy.

    The more oxygen you give it, the more it's validated. Let it go and it will choke itself out.
    You're a jerk you know that? Really...no joking.

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    And FTR: It will not 'choke itself out' everytime I hear the word I think of Price calling a game and I will continue to do it because when I think of a baseball game being called...I feel good...I would have thought everyone would have liked to be reminded of listening to a Tiger game in July....obviously not.
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    It might if people actually liked Jim Price.
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    Who wants to be reminded of Jim Price talking?

    I thought it was to mock him, so I am good with it.

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