WE HAVE NO RELIEF PITCHERS VALVERDE IS OVERATED PEOPLE.

**DetroitTigersRule** · 02-12-2012, 11:34 AM

I just wanna say that we have no relief pitchers except Al Alberque and Joquian Benoit. Jose Valverde is not good sure you can say he had 43 consecutive saves but did you watch those 43 consecutive games he pitched we would have say a 10-0 lead and he comes in and he brings up the score to 10-9 and he still gets the save. I think we should go out and get a solid relief pitcher.

**PuNk42AE** · 02-12-2012, 11:37 AM

And we posted in Caps why?

**The Truman Show** · 02-12-2012, 11:38 AM

C- troll effort.

**Sports_Freak** · 02-12-2012, 11:51 AM

Anyone who thinks a save is awarded in a 10-0 game doesn't know much about baseball.
So his/her insults of Valverde are pointless.

Think it's Grapes? Just about the same grammar, or lack of.

**Yoda** · 02-12-2012, 11:54 AM

Boy this guy really wants attention... just insisted in another thread that we should go after Buehrle...

**ROMAD1** · 02-12-2012, 11:55 AM

Listen up folks, we lack effective relief pitchers and it is my belief that Jose Valverde is overated.

That may have been a clearer way of stating that. If you don't take the time to clearly express yourself, you will be ignored unless you are warning everyone there is a fire and the flames are licking your heels.

**apabruce** · 02-12-2012, 11:55 AM

"VALVERDE IS OVERATED (sic)" is an opinion. You're welcome to that but you don't need to shout.

"WE HAVE NO RELIEF PITCHERS" is demonstrably false.

**Just Some Dude** · 02-12-2012, 11:57 AM

Dotel and Coke are decent, our bullpen will be above average hopefully. We saw what happened in the playoffs last year and we've only added 1 new guy. This team still has several lingering concerns but no concern is greater for me than.. how will I afford WS tickets?

**Yoda** · 02-12-2012, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sports_Freak

Anyone who thinks a save is awarded in a 10-0 game doesn't know much about baseball.
So his/her insults of Valverde are pointless.

Think it's Grapes? Just about the same grammar, or lack of.

Grapes was a fictional character created by another poster...

This does seem trollish though.. nobody really thinks you get a save after giving up 9 runs, do they?

**Antrat** · 02-12-2012, 12:02 PM

I think this is that goofy guy from Valencia that was posting during the game threads last season.
The insane headlines are a dead giveaway.

EDIT: Cookies! That was the name!

**DetroitTigersRule** · 02-12-2012, 12:03 PM

Everything I said about 10-0 and everything else was wrong but the fact that jose valverde is overated and we need relif pitching is not wrong

**DetroitTigersRule** · 02-12-2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Antrat

I think this is that goofy guy from Valencia that was posting during the game threads last season.
The insane headlines are a dead giveaway.

I just joined

**Yoda** · 02-12-2012, 12:04 PM

Yup. Someone that knows the basic rules but is pretending not to just to get a reaction out of everyone. I'm guessing a White Sox fan.

**Sports_Freak** · 02-12-2012, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda

Grapes was a fictional character created by another poster...

This does seem trollish though.. nobody really thinks you get a save after giving up 9 runs, do they?

Grapes was a fictional character? Has that been proven or just a theory? You have to remember, there are people out there who are really stupid.

What's the over/under before this guy gets tossed? 100 posts?

**Yoda** · 02-12-2012, 12:06 PM

And now people will stop replying and he'll say something even more extreme to get attention and ends up getting banned. Rinse, repeat a couple times a year...

**Yoda** · 02-12-2012, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Sports_Freak

Grapes was a fictional character? Has that been proven or just a theory? You have to remember, there are people out there who are really stupid.

What's the over/under before this guy gets tossed? 100 posts?

25

And yes, 100% fictional. A few people know who it was and I have a couple guesses but I'm not completely sure.

**DetroitTigersRule** · 02-12-2012, 12:07 PM

Im a f'n tigers fan im sorry about everything else i said except that jose valverde is overated and we need relief pitching

**Sports_Freak** · 02-12-2012, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Antrat

I think this is that goofy guy from Valencia that was posting during the game threads last season.
The insane headlines are a dead giveaway.

EDIT: Cookies! That was the name!

Yeah, we had fun with that thread starting troll. It took quite a while for him to get the boot though. : )

**T&P_Fan** · 02-12-2012, 12:12 PM

I do expect Valverde to regress at a frustrating level this season. He got bailed out a lot last year.

**Vonlenska** · 02-12-2012, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitTigersRule

Im a f'n tigers fan im sorry about everything else i said except that jose valverde is overated and we need relief pitching

lol

**Sports_Freak** · 02-12-2012, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by T&P_Fan

I do expect Valverde to regress at a frustrating level this season. He got bailed out a lot last year.

Yes, there were several games he could have blown. But 49 save situations? It's pretty normal to blow a few. But somehow he didn't. I think the closest he came to blowing one was the game where AJax threw out a runner at home.

My biggest complaint about him is his deliberate (slow) pitching. He tends to build the tension to an unbearable level.

**IdahoBert** · 02-12-2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitTigersRule

Im a f'n tigers fan im sorry about everything else i said except that jose valverde is overated and we need relief pitching

THIS IS A WARNING: Your posts seem purposely calculated to get a rise out of people. All caps? Really? Poor capitalization skills? Really? Misspellings. Really? Playing the "aw shucks, I just want to talk baseball" thing. Really? If this is all on purpose then you're a troll. If you can't help posting like this because you don't know any better we are not interested in holding your hand. We have better things to do.

We have seen this a lot. We know what it is when we see it. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, chances are it's a duck. They way you comport yourself immediately after this post will indicate whether you will have any future on this board.

**Big Frame** · 02-12-2012, 12:28 PM

Don Kelly can come out of the Bullpen.

**Yoda** · 02-12-2012, 12:29 PM

He'll blow 3 saves but pitch better in non-save situations (up 10-0) and his overall numbers will look just like last year.

**chasfh** · 02-12-2012, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitTigersRule

Im a f'n tigers fan im sorry about everything else i said except that jose valverde is overated and we need relief pitching

Hey, if it doesn't work out for you here, there's a couple other places you might consider:

TigersCentral.com - excoboard.com

Yahoo! Message Boards - Detroit Tigers

**catswithbats** · 02-12-2012, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitTigersRule

we would have say a 10-0 lead and he comes in and he brings up the score to 10-9 and he still gets the save.

This is untrue. It wouldn't be a save situation.

**IdahoBert** · 02-12-2012, 12:38 PM

DetroitTigersRule, on second thought, this is such an obvious effort at trolling--a textbook example on what buttons to push to get a rise from people with all CAPs, misspellings, run-on sentences, feeble apologies about just wanting to talk Tigers baseball--that I am banning you right now.

You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

**ROMAD1** · 02-12-2012, 12:39 PM

Note...that my attempt to shame the lad...had an error in it...

[shakes head]

Did anyone suggest MLIVE yet?

**Yoda** · 02-12-2012, 12:40 PM

11 posts... epic. Thanks Bert.

**The Truman Show** · 02-12-2012, 12:41 PM

He's still better than Dave Cameron amirite??

**ROMAD1** · 02-12-2012, 12:41 PM

In light of how good the back end of the BP was last year...it makes 2008's awful BP seem like a really bad dream.

**catswithbats** · 02-12-2012, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Truman Show

He's still better than Dave Cameron amirite??

I bet DetroitTigersRule IS Dave Cameron!!

**Sports_Freak** · 02-12-2012, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by IdahoBert

DetroitTigersRule, on second thought, this is such an obvious effort at trolling--a textbook example on what buttons to push to get a rise from people with all CAPs, misspellings, run-on sentences, feeble apologies about just wanting to talk Tigers baseball--that I am banning you right now.

You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

Wow. Well done, Bert. That was quick, but well deserved. My 100 post over/under was way off.

I think I read for about a year before I started my first thread. I still don't start many, only if it's something important and isn't already reported. Maybe there should be a 10 day waiting period for new members to even be allowed to start a thread?

But Grapes was an impostor? That ruins my entire day. All this time, I thought I was actually smarter than someone else.

I mean, my heavy, misplaced comma use, bad grammar, misspellings, run on sentences and random thoughts are just an attempt to lighten things up, not a sign of stupidity.

**CapitalTigers** · 02-12-2012, 01:46 PM

FYI too, al al is out for the year.

**PuNk42AE** · 02-12-2012, 01:50 PM

Quack Quack Quack

**irishmick79** · 02-12-2012, 01:53 PM

So long, DetroitTigersRule, we hardly knew ye. I hope he at least got a smoke on his way out...

**Sports_Freak** · 02-12-2012, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by CapitalTigers

FYI too, al al is out for the year.

The whole year? Last I read, he was expected back in late July.

Tigers' Al Alburquerque undergoes elbow surgery to fix stress fracture | tigers.com: News

**apabruce** · 02-12-2012, 01:57 PM

When we encounter a poster who is so off base, with no communication skills who jumps in with both feet, I worry she/he has a learning disability. Then I feel guilty for jumping on a handicapped person.

**PuNk42AE** · 02-12-2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by apabruce

When we encounter a poster who is so off base, with no communication skills who jumps in with both feet, I worry she/he has a learning disability. Then I feel guilty for jumping on a handicapped person.

What about Yooper?

**tigerjoe** · 02-12-2012, 02:04 PM

You could do a lot worse than Valverde, Benoit, Dotel, Coke, and Al Al as your top 5 bullpen guys. Duane Below did a pretty decent job and could also be a plus reliever and spot starter. And it isn't a huge stretch to think Schlereth could turn into a decent pitcher, not great but decent. Villarreal has potential.

Al Al is the key, I think. If he can come back healthy and everyone else pitches up to reasonable expectations this could be a top notch bullpen.