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Based on the article, the title is very deceptive.
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Pretty different players actually....both bring speed to the table, Jackson brings plus defensive potential to the table at all three outfield slots, Ramirez brings plus to plus-plus power potential to the table....Jackson has the better pure hit tool and plate discipline....both have their virtues and their faults. If I'm looking for a replacement in center field, I'd be more inclined to look the way of Jackson than Ramirez.
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who updates that Tigers twitter thing? All it did was link to the mlive one. I assume it's not someone in the organization.
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That's what I thought, but obviously, it's from MLive.
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12-07-2009, 02:42 PM
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Good thing the Tiger woods thing didn't break today or else twitter would be all tiger'ed out.
These up to the minute rumors are not a good thing. All it does is create chaos. It'd be very easy for a troll to get something started. It'd be fun just to see it all develop.
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These up to the minute rumors are not a good thing. All it does is create chaos. It'd be very easy for a troll to get something started. It'd be fun just to see it all develop.
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I disagree, to me the rumors are the most interesting part. There are always going to be people who try to mess things up, but usually the BS info doesn't get in the way of the real rumors.
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And some of us, like me, still are not.
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No matter what you thought at the time, I don't know how anyone could say that Joyce wasn't worth the names that are being tossed around as coming back for EJ. + the season he put in for us last year. I'll tell you this, if all we get back for him is a Joyce equivalent I'd be pretty disappointed - and based on the reports it is going to take more than that- but even if we did we got last year as well so we still win that trade.
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Yankees could thwart Cubs' shot at Granderson
December 7, 2009 1:28 PM
By Dave van Dyck
INDIANAPOLIS -- Latest hot winter-meetings rumor making the rounds in the Marriott Hotel lobby is that the Yankees are hot on the trail of Tigers center fielder Curtis Granderson, and that is not good news for the Cubs.
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12-07-2009, 02:54 PM
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How about Stephen Drew coming back from Arizona some how.....
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12-07-2009, 03:00 PM
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I'm in the Marriott lobby, and can definitely say this is spreading quickly.
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12-07-2009, 03:01 PM
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How about Stephen Drew coming back from Arizona some how.....
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I saw Drew's name floated as a trade candidate (not specifically to the Tigers) about a week ago. It said he may be available but the cost would be steep. The thought surprised me - I don't know what, if anything, they have coming up the shortstop pipeline.
Here's Bob Nightengale in late-September:
Stephen Drew-SS- Diamondbacks Sep. 26 - 3:39 pm et
According to Bob Nightengale of USA Today, in an effort to upgrade their pitching, the Diamondbacks will listen to offers for Stephen Drew.
Nightengale names the prospect-rich Red Sox among the teams that may have interest in the 26-year-old shortstop. After a breakout season in 2008, Drew has regressed to a .259/.323/.430 line with 12 homers and 59 RBI in 498at-bats. The Diamondbacks may look to deal him before negotiating a long-term deal with his agent Scott Boras.
Source: Bob Nightengale on Twitter
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12-07-2009, 03:01 PM
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Good thing the Tiger woods thing didn't break today or else twitter would be all tiger'ed out.
These up to the minute rumors are not a good thing. All it does is create chaos. It'd be very easy for a troll to get something started. It'd be fun just to see it all develop.
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Did you see the anatomy of a rumor post on one of the ND blogs, re: Bielema and Notre Dame? Pretty cool stuff.
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12-07-2009, 03:02 PM
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This is the *BS* article that incited the MLive hijinks. Speculative.
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12-07-2009, 03:03 PM
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I'm in the Marriott lobby, and can definitely say this is spreading quickly.
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Get crackin and make sure Montero is in the deal!
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12-07-2009, 03:06 PM
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STARLIN CASTRO!
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12-07-2009, 03:06 PM
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"All in" better not mean Carlos Marmol.
Man, patience is a virture here. Get teams like NYY and ChC to start bidding against each other and we could come away golden.
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12-07-2009, 03:06 PM
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hahaha oh man, people here (in the lobby) are going nuts because twitter is down
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12-07-2009, 03:07 PM
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Is all in from the Cubs good enough? Their system is pretty weak.
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12-07-2009, 03:08 PM
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"All in" better not mean Carlos Marmol.
Man, patience is a virture here. Get teams like NYY and ChC to start bidding against each other and we could come away golden.
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+2 It would make a great start to the winter to get a big haul.
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12-07-2009, 03:09 PM
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Is all in from the Cubs good enough? Their system is pretty weak.
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Isn't it rich in what we need? SS & 3B?
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12-07-2009, 03:10 PM
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Is all in from the Cubs good enough? Their system is pretty weak.
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I have the same question. The Yankee speculation is much more appealing.
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12-07-2009, 03:11 PM
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Is all in from the Cubs good enough? Their system is pretty weak.
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I don't think the Cubs have enough to get Granderson. Unless people love Josh Vitters (the bidding would really start with Starlin Castro) or Granderson's reputation among execs is a lot lower than we think it is.
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12-07-2009, 03:11 PM
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Isn't it rich in what we need? SS & 3B?
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Who's going to play CF?
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12-07-2009, 03:12 PM
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Who's going to play CF?
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Jackson trade....or possible 3-way trade?
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12-07-2009, 03:13 PM
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Isn't it rich in what we need? SS & 3B?
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I feel we need elite talent more than any specific position. Which is why Montero makes sense even though we have a great 1B, and Hughes makes sense even though the organization has a good set of young starters.
I'm afraid if we trade for position "need", we're going to fall short. The aim should be to stockpile top young talent regardless of where they play. We have very few positions that don't need talent infusions, both at the MLB and MiLB levels.
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As well as Granderson last year? The list is pretty long.
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Once we clean the Cubs out for Grandy, we'll clean the Yankees out for EJ and get Cf covered there. 
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12-07-2009, 03:16 PM
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ed_price #Tigers and #Yankees are in talks on Granderson, but "lukewarm" cause Yanks so far won'tdeal prospect A.Jackson & Det wants CF in return.
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Ed Price (ed_price) on Twitter
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12-07-2009, 03:17 PM
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As well as Granderson last year? The list is pretty long.
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Alright, go ahead. I'd like to see this.
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12-07-2009, 03:18 PM
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I don't think the Cubs have enough to get Granderson. Unless people love Josh Vitters (the bidding would really start with Starlin Castro) or Granderson's reputation among execs is a lot lower than we think it is.
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I would do a Marmol, Vitters, Samardzija deal for Granderson. Also Castro has got to be rated above Vitters.....so I think they have enough firepower to get a deal done.
Especially Marmol and Samardzija would allow us to trade Jackson for the CF prospect/player and SS prospect/player.
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12-07-2009, 03:18 PM
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Peter Gammons just said that the Cubs are out on Granderson, so it's far from all in.
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If they're hesitating on involving Jackson, makes me wonder what exactly they're willing to give us for Granderson.
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12-07-2009, 03:20 PM
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I would do a Marmol, Vitters, Samardzija deal for Granderson. Also Castro has got to be rated above Vitters.....so I think they have enough firepower to get a deal done.
Especially Marmol and Samardzija would allow us to trade Jackson for the CF prospect/player and SS prospect/player.
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Garbage.
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If they're hesitating on involving Jackson, makes me wonder what exactly they're willing to give us for Granderson.
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Makes me think Montero isn't even being considered.
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12-07-2009, 03:21 PM
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My personal feeling is somehow we are going to end up with Brendan Morrow and Mark Lowe from Seattle. Especially Mark Lowe.....he is a spitting image of DD's type of pitcher.
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I don't understand that, about NYY being reluctant to include Jackson in a trade for a centerfielder. Unless they have future visions of a CG-AJ platoon.
We're probably overvaluing Granderson here.
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Wait a minute: So Lynn Henning was right? The Tigers ARE shopping Granderson?
What's that say for the people around here who crucified Henning for daring to suggest that Grandy might be traded?
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Is all in from the Cubs good enough? Their system is pretty weak.
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Agreed. They don't have anybody that excites me that much including Castro. I certainly wouldn't mind having him in the Tigers system but he's not somebody I'd want in a trade for Granderson. I don't know if I could stand Granderson being on the Yankees but there is a lot more promise there if they do deal him.
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Garbage.
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LMAO.....one thing I love about this place is that no one holds strong opinions.
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12-07-2009, 03:22 PM
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If they're hesitating on involving Jackson, makes me wonder what exactly they're willing to give us for Granderson.
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If you don't get the moon for Granderson, don't trade him.
And this is coming from someone who thinks they should try to trade him now while his value is still high.
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