Do Tigers stand pat at Trade Deadline?

**AlaskanTigersFan** · 07-01-2008, 12:57 PM

Do they even have enough bargaining chips to get a player? Do they need a Player? Thoughts?

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 07-01-2008, 12:58 PM

They could always add Bonds without parting with a player....

**Tramfan** · 07-01-2008, 12:59 PM

I would think if anything the Derrick Lowe or AJ Burnett suggestions make sense and only at the right price. However with the way Burnett's pitching he may pitch his way out of our price range. I would think Jeff Larish would be centerpiece of any deal on our end.

**El Gato Pollo Loco!!** · 07-01-2008, 01:00 PM

I think they may make a minor move or two. If they get anyone it might be a end of rotation starter.

**Eric Cioe** · 07-01-2008, 01:11 PM

They should go after Lowe or Maddux so long as they don't have to give up too much.

**Titus Tiger** · 07-01-2008, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

They could always add Bonds without parting with a player....

I thought I read a headline where he said he would play for free

**JayVee** · 07-01-2008, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by librarymonkey27

I thought I read a headline where he said he would play for free

Well, he would have to earn the league minimum... but he could always donate it.

Not that I've heard him say anything specific regarding this issue.

And YES, for the record, I still would like to see BB in the Olde English D... Especially since we can't seem to avoid the injury bug this year.

**JayVee** · 07-01-2008, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Eric Cioe

They should go after Lowe or Maddux so long as they don't have to give up too much.

I would also love this...

**DaYooperASBDT** · 07-01-2008, 02:46 PM

I think Larish has a limit to his upside. If he was the centerpiece of a deal I wouldn't lose
too much sleep. (Watch him pull a Pena then)

**Dino** · 07-01-2008, 03:09 PM

It looks like the offense is all set. I agree, another starter would be nice. Bonine has been good but in the long run, he probably will not replace Bondo. Lowe would be a fantastic pick up. As long as they do not part with too much.

**will the thrill** · 07-01-2008, 03:16 PM

i'd prefer Paul Byrd, guy kills us in comerica and I remember his last comment about knowing he was in a big park and just throwing strikes and doing his thing

**Edman85** · 07-01-2008, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by will the thrill

i'd prefer Paul Byrd, guy kills us in comerica and I remember his last comment about knowing he was in a big park and just throwing strikes and doing his thing

Unfortunately, if acquired, he would continue to kill us in Comerica.

**Eric Cioe** · 07-01-2008, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by will the thrill

i'd prefer Paul Byrd, guy kills us in comerica and I remember his last comment about knowing he was in a big park and just throwing strikes and doing his thing

I bet the Indians wouldn't want much for Byrd. He'd be a frustrating guy to watch but I've always liked him.

**Madmanrick** · 07-01-2008, 03:23 PM

I think they'll make a strong push for Freddie Garcia, assuming of course he proves he's healthy. This will be mainly due to the fact that he'll cost them nothing but dollars (i.e no prospects). Maddux would be nice, but I doubt he'll come here and he'll cost more than the Tigers are willing/able to part with. I think Lowe might be available and I think they could afford him, but I'm not sure if he'll be much of an improvement over the guys we have in there now. Burnett will be out of our price range, as will Sabathia. Bonds, again I say no. The last thing this lineup needs is another old and post-steroidal injury susceptible guy, even with the OPS he'll bring when healthy. I can't see much other movement for this team.

**billfer** · 07-01-2008, 03:24 PM

I think Willis's progress over the next 3 weeks plays a role in whether they stand pat.

**chasfh** · 07-01-2008, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Edman85

Unfortunately, if acquired, he would continue to kill us in Comerica.

+1!

Seriously, we need a front of rotation starter, since we're already swimming in back of rotation starters. Rich Harden, anybody? (Although A's would have to go 5-20 by end of month for them to sell.)

**Shelton** · 07-01-2008, 03:25 PM

I don't think the Tigers have nearly enough to trade for anything good.

Derek Lowe would be a solid addition if the Dodgers are out it at the end of July, but I don't see what the Tigers have to trade. The one thing the Dodgers don't need is outfielders. Maybe something including Hollimon.

**chasfh** · 07-01-2008, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by billfer

I think Willis's progress over the next 3 weeks plays a role in whether they stand pat.

I'm afraid you're right. Really, really, really afraid.

**JonBenke** · 07-01-2008, 03:26 PM

I would look at Joe Blanton if Oakland tanks, being his numbers this year are pretty bad, though his second half numbers over his career are good.

EDIT; wow .. okay, his numbers the past two years after the All-Star break haven't been that good, though the year that sprung to mind - 2005.

Ws - 7
Ls - 5
IP - 102.0
Ks - 69
ERA - 2.65
WHIP - 1.16

I know that's one year, three years ago .. though the gamble, for the right price .. could be worth it.

**Titus Tiger** · 07-01-2008, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by JayVee7777

Well, he would have to earn the league minimum... but he could always donate it.

Not that I've heard him say anything specific regarding this issue.

And YES, for the record, I still would like to see BB in the Olde English D... Especially since we can't seem to avoid the injury bug this year.

I am indifferent.. but at best I would like to see a Matt Stairs kind of deal... A push in September, then seeya

**Doctor Detroit** · 07-01-2008, 03:54 PM

Do people not know how to create a poll when starting a thread?

**Shelton** · 07-01-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Doctor Detroit

Do people not know how to create a poll when starting a thread?

You should start a thread and ask. Make sure to include a poll.

**JayVee** · 07-01-2008, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Doctor Detroit

Do people not know how to create a poll when starting a thread?

He can still add one... PM him and ask.

**baseball3** · 07-01-2008, 04:33 PM

I'd like us to trade for Greinke. I see where the Phillies are extremely interested, but, what would the Royals want for him?

**Doctor Detroit** · 07-01-2008, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by baseball3

I'd like us to trade for Greinke. I see where the Phillies are extremely interested, but, what would the Royals want for him?

A lot. Way more than the Tigers could offer.

**baseball3** · 07-01-2008, 04:37 PM

How can we get us a good #2 catcher along the way?

Do the Rangers need to trade any of theirs? what would they be looking for? An Eddie Bonine or Aquilino Lopez?

**DaYooperASBDT** · 07-01-2008, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by baseball3

I'd like us to trade for Greinke. I see where the Phillies are extremely interested, but, what would the Royals want for him?

Probably Porcello.

**MudHens08** · 07-01-2008, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Tramfan

I would think if anything the Derrick Lowe or AJ Burnett suggestions make sense and only at the right price. However with the way Burnett's pitching he may pitch his way out of our price range. I would think Pete Larish would be centerpiece of any deal on our end.

don't you mean jeff larish?

**baseball3** · 07-01-2008, 04:44 PM

I would NOT trade Porcello, he's going to be better than JV

**Doctor Detroit** · 07-01-2008, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by baseball3

I would NOT trade Porcello, he's going to be better than JV

That's pretty optimistic. I'd consider trading him for Grienke to be honest, Grienke has some ML proven stuff and is just 24.

**mattniles007** · 07-01-2008, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Eric Cioe

They should go after Lowe or Maddux so long as they don't have to give up too much.

Maddux is a huge mistake, he will get rocked in the AL.

**DaYooperASBDT** · 07-01-2008, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by baseball3

I would NOT trade Porcello, he's going to be better than JV

Well then you ain't a gettin Greinke!

**baseball3** · 07-01-2008, 05:13 PM

In that case, I'd stay with our guy.

Zack can .............well, I'm sure you've read the '06 spring training stories.

There is a risk it could rear itself again and I personally wouldn't want to take that risk. I know this young man very well and that risk is way more likely to happen than not.

I think we're net better off watching him from a distance. If he continues on the current path, we can all celebrate his accomplishments, but, if the cost is HUGE, I'd pass!

**Antrat** · 07-01-2008, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by mattniles007

Maddux is a huge mistake, he will get rocked in the AL.

Correct. And he's proven in the past that he is not a post season kind of pitcher.
You know...one that wins.

**ToledoTigerFan** · 07-01-2008, 05:42 PM

Stand pat. The farm system has been raided enough to get players to compete this year. It's sink or swim with what they got. These guys are either good enough to win it this year or they're not. Don't part with players they'll need to fill the old holes that are about to appear.

**Titus Tiger** · 07-01-2008, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by ToledoTigerFan

Stand pat. The farm system has been raided enough to get players to compete this year. It's sink or swim with what they got. These guys are either good enough to win it this year or they're not. Don't part with players they'll need to fill the old holes that are about to appear.

plus the guys who have been coming up have been doing pretty good, so let's not trade away the future for a team that should be good enough

**ToledoTigerFan** · 07-01-2008, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by librarymonkey27

plus the guys who have been coming up have been doing pretty good, so let's not trade away the future for a team that should be good enough

Exactly. Especially one player. The more I see of Clete Thomas, the more I like him. I think the dude's got a pretty good future in MLB. I could see him being the full-time LF next year. He might have value at the trade deadline, but I hope DD and JL resist the urge to move him.

**VegasTiger** · 07-01-2008, 06:12 PM

As far as Lowe goes, I would be good with that if he doesn't cost too much. He certainly has shown some post-season nads.
I can't believe I'm saying this but, if Sheff goes down again, I'd give Bonds a shot. He did say he would play for the league minimum and donate it to charity. I'd rather see this than bringing up someone like Larish again. No slam against Jeff, just not his time yet.

**JayVee** · 07-01-2008, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by VegasTiger

As far as Lowe goes, I would be good with that if he doesn't cost too much. He certainly has shown some post-season nads.
I can't believe I'm saying this but, if Sheff goes down again, I'd give Bonds a shot. He did say he would play for the league minimum and donate it to charity. I'd rather see this than bringing up someone like Larish again. No slam against Jeff, just not his time yet.

Good post... I agree with this, 100%

**Titus Tiger** · 07-01-2008, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by ToledoTigerFan

Exactly. Especially one player. The more I see of Clete Thomas, the more I like him. I think the dude's got a pretty good future in MLB. I could see him being the full-time LF next year. He might have value at the trade deadline, but I hope DD and JL resist the urge to move him.

and some of the other guys -- Matt Joyce for example --- maybe they haven't really lit it up, are guys you drafted for a reason, not because you thought you could trade them away after a couple years...

I believe if you are going to go after someone at the trade deadline there should be a two-fold purpose:
a) you need him

2) since you need him, you go after him long term