The Thread of 1,000 Runs

**dt35456884** · 12-05-2007, 03:17 PM

It may or may not happen, but every run scored this year will be documented in this thread.

15 runs scored
985 to go

**DTroppens** · 12-05-2007, 03:21 PM

Are you counting spring training?

That's averaging 6.17 runs a game.The Tigers scored 887 last year. That would be a big jump. But maybe they can give it a run (pun intended).

**DennisDubay** · 12-05-2007, 03:24 PM

Love this idea.

**Mark The Shark** · 12-05-2007, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by DTroppens

Are you counting spring training?

That's averaging 6.17 runs a game.The Tigers scored 887 last year. That would be a big jump. But maybe they can give it a run (pun intended).

I think this lineup has a serious shot at 1,000 runs.

**DaYooperASBDT** · 12-05-2007, 03:26 PM

Could happen. 950 for sure, but let's think 4 digits here!

**dt35456884** · 12-05-2007, 03:26 PM

It's probably less than even odds but I think we've got a chance to do it if everybody is healthy, Leyland commits to a platoon in left, and somebody like Pudge can bounce back somewhat.

You look at what Monroe, Casey, and Inge did last year and it makes you wonder what we might have done with just league-average production out of their positions.

**Yoda** · 12-05-2007, 03:29 PM

I scored twice this morning.

**lesgoblu02** · 12-05-2007, 03:30 PM

I scored last night.

That makes 3.

**DennisDubay** · 12-05-2007, 03:32 PM

Somewhere, somehow, this thread went wrong.

**slim pickens** · 12-05-2007, 03:33 PM

I am eating White Castle as we speak, I will contribute Later on!!

**DaYooperASBDT** · 12-05-2007, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda

I scored twice this morning.

Sleeping in does lead to some wild dreams ....

Actually, I thought this thread was about indigestion ??

**Oblong** · 12-05-2007, 03:37 PM

I was kinda hoping this thread would end up with like 180 replies come October 2008.

**DTroppens** · 12-05-2007, 04:23 PM

In 1984 I kept this notebook detailing every game of the season. I look at it now and it was actually very basic. I felt so good that the Tigers were going to win the World Series that I started the book - something I never had done before and never again actually.

After the team started 9-0 (or somewhere during that streak) I started thinking this may be the best team ever. Well I was stupid. I was 15 and we didn't have message boards to smack down such talk back then.

So I started keeping track of what we needed to do to beat the 1927 NY Yankees - the team I considered at the time the best ever. I should pull that thing out and find out where I decided it was useless and quit tracking the Yankee watch. I don't think I ever really thought they were the best ever, but it was a neat thing to do. It was fun while it lasted.

**Yoda** · 12-05-2007, 04:26 PM

I used to keep a homerun chart as a kid with the players names and the date they hit each homerun. It was like a big bar graph. It was a lot of fun. I think I started that in 89 and did it for 4 or 5 years in a row. Those early 90's teams were fun to track. I had to add paper for Cecil in '91.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 12-05-2007, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by DTroppens

... After the team started 9-0 (or somewhere during that streak) I started thinking this may be the best team ever. Well I was stupid.

I don't know about stupid....that team was probably in the 99th percentile in terms of quality of MLB teams all-time.

There have been far worse teams cited as the best team of all time.

**Euphdude** · 12-05-2007, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda

I scored twice this morning.

Playing against yourself doesn't count.

**Corky** · 12-05-2007, 04:36 PM

I should be able to contribute soon since I stopped at the new taco wagon near work for lunch.

Just sitting here waiting for the tacos to kick in and the Direct TV guy to show up and connect us.

**HeyAbbott** · 12-05-2007, 05:02 PM

1,000 runs this next season is not far fetched. Adding Sheff, even with all of the injuries saw an improvement form 820 to 887. If adding Renteria and Craberra(sp) add 120 runs, that would get us there. With no improvement in pitching, the improved hitting should get us a 95 to 96 win season. I am guessing at 930-800 worse case versus 887-789 last year. I think the ceiling in RA-RS might be 1050-700. That would equate to roughly 116 wins, tops.

Now that would certainly be something.

**dt35456884** · 12-05-2007, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by HeyAbbott

1,000 runs this next season is not far fetched. Adding Sheff, even with all of the injuries saw an improvement form 820 to 887. If adding Renteria and Craberra(sp) add 120 runs, that would get us there. With no improvement in pitching, the improved hitting should get us a 95 to 96 win season. I am guessing at 930-800 worse case versus 887-789 last year. I think the ceiling in RA-RS might be 1050-700. That would equate to roughly 116 wins, tops.

Don't discount the upgrade in LF. Jones/Thames/Raburn ought to be at least respectable whereas Monroe was a total disaster last season.

**Omar's Cuz** · 12-05-2007, 06:06 PM

If the lineup can start out really hot, should we start looking at the all-time single season records?

AL - New York Yankees (1931): 1067 runs
MLB - Boston (NL) (1894): 1220 runs

**DaYooperASBDT** · 12-05-2007, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Yoda

I scored twice this morning.

Damn son, you must be ambidextrous or something !!

(And yes it took me 6 hours to come up with that)

**DennisDubay** · 12-05-2007, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by DTroppens

In 1984 I kept this notebook detailing every game of the season.

Originally Posted by Yoda

I used to keep a homerun chart as a kid with the players names and the date they hit each homerun. It was like a big bar graph.

Nerds.

**Lbh24** · 12-05-2007, 10:11 PM

This thread is such a good idea.

**DaYooperASBDT** · 12-16-2007, 07:17 PM

And here's how they are going to do it. I basically averaged each players last two injury-free seasons. I did fudge quite a bit for Granderson. Any figures that are especially creative have been italicized.

"AB+" is calculated by adding at-bats, HBP, BB, and SF. I will post the spreadsheet separately:

**DaYooperASBDT** · 12-16-2007, 07:21 PM

**DaYooperASBDT** · 12-16-2007, 07:27 PM

Given very good health, then my spreadsheet's projected team totals (.363 OBP and .491 SLG) become quite plausible. Those figures, taken together, would exceed the team OPS of the 2007 Yankees, who pushed across a mere 968 tallies.

This ... could ... HAPPEN.

**Buddahfan** · 12-16-2007, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mark The Shark

I think this lineup has a serious shot at 1,000 runs.

If any of the guys wear pantyhose like Joe Namath did we might evem get to 2,000 runs next year.

**Buddahfan** · 12-16-2007, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by DaYooperASBDT

I think the IRS might need to audit this

**apabruce** · 12-16-2007, 09:02 PM

Yoop, how do you post a spreadsheet? Looks good, by the way.

**ToledoTigerFan** · 12-16-2007, 09:18 PM

1,000 runs. Why not shoot for 1,100?

**Shinma** · 12-16-2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by apabruce

Yoop, how do you post a spreadsheet? Looks good, by the way.

That is an image Yoop posted. You can take a screen cap of most anything you are looking at using shift + PrtSc to put it in your clipboard, then paste it in paint or photoshop.

**apabruce** · 12-16-2007, 09:41 PM

Thank you, Shinma. A related question: When you click on the image button, it asks for a URL, so the image already needs to be on the web. I think I have read that to post an image from your computer, you must first post it to the gallery and wait for approval, then post it as part of a message.

Other people seem to post images very quickly in response to another message, so how is that done? They can't have waited for approval.

**davidsb** · 12-16-2007, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by dt35456884

It may or may not happen, but every run scored this year will be documented in this thread.

I think you may need to change your member name to dt3545688408

**Shinma** · 12-17-2007, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by apabruce

Thank you, Shinma. A related question: When you click on the image button, it asks for a URL, so the image already needs to be on the web. I think I have read that to post an image from your computer, you must first post it to the gallery and wait for approval, then post it as part of a message.

Other people seem to post images very quickly in response to another message, so how is that done? They can't have waited for approval.

There are free web pic hosting sites out there like imageshack, like I use for my game threads. They basically use an honor system where they automatically allow anything you upload, and shoot down anything inappropriate afterwards, and ban the user, or ip address if it gets bad.

Also, some people have access to private FTP sites and can host whatever they want to.

As for the 1000 runs, I dont think the Tigers get there, but it may be close. It will be fun rooting for them to do it.

**FloridaTigers** · 12-17-2007, 01:29 AM

I think I've scored before

**hueytaxi** · 12-17-2007, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by apabruce

Thank you, Shinma. A related question: When you click on the image button, it asks for a URL, so the image already needs to be on the web. I think I have read that to post an image from your computer, you must first post it to the gallery and wait for approval, then post it as part of a message.

Other people seem to post images very quickly in response to another message, so how is that done? They can't have waited for approval.

I use photobucket and flickr for my own photos. Any web photo if you are using Firefox, simply click on the photo with the right button and "Save image location". Return to your post, find the photo icon and click it and paste the location. Review your post before "Submit".

**DaYooperASBDT** · 12-17-2007, 06:09 AM

Basically, what Shinma said. I take a screenshot by pressing "Alt" + "Print Screen/SysRq", then paste into Paint or another graphics program (I use IrfanView). Save that as a .jpg to cut file size.

Then I usually upload to either my Geocities or Tripod account, to get the URL for posting here.

**DaYooperASBDT** · 12-17-2007, 06:22 AM

PS - If you want to try using this spreadsheet for your own projections, please PM me your email, or maybe we could set up another system for sharing this.

**ToledoTigerFan** · 12-17-2007, 06:25 PM

Here's some all-time records courtesy of baseball-almanac.com.

AL New York
1931---1,067
NL Boston
1894---1,220

To beat the Yankees AL runs-scored record, the Tigers will have to average 6.6 runs per game. To beat the all-time record of the Boston NL franchise, the Tigers will have to average a whopping 7.54 runs per game. The AL record seems approachable, but the overvall ML record looks out of reach.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/rb_runs2.shtml

**ToledoTigerFan** · 12-17-2007, 06:43 PM

Just out of sheer curiosity, I took the top RBI totals of the Tigers presumed starting nine in 2008 and added them together. The total is 931 RBI. Some guys(read as "Pudge") will never gets close to their top ever again, but most of the Tigers hitters still have a chance to equal or surpass their best-ever RBI total. It'll be fun to watch the 2008 Tigers.