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Thread: 2014 Trade Deadline Chatter
07-23-2014, 03:55 PM #841
I'd guess the 5th starter only would contribute significant innings in a game tied late because you may need 4 or 5 innings out of the pitcher in an extra inning affair, or if the starter gets knocked out due to injury or ineffectiveness but the game is close.
07-23-2014, 03:57 PM #842
I will invest much of that billions into fixing the failed upcoming illitch development and public transit. I will provide free utilities to all residents within the district, and free water to the outlying neighborhoods. I will also triple the police force.
I will then buy the tigers, and rest assured that I will shell out to keep victor Martinez jr in a tigers uniform for his entire career.
More importantly, I will give manager Don Kelly all of the support he needs to implement lineup optimization (batting victor jr second) and an efficiently run bullpen.
Also, the Robbie Ray statue will be erected without delay after his retirement. It's the right thing to do for the five time cy young winner and six time MVP.AAT: Ian Kinsler
07-23-2014, 04:00 PM #843
07-23-2014, 04:01 PM #844
We decided if we win the lottery and get FU money we're buying the entire box section 216 and converting it into our own area. Couches, TVs, hammocks, mini bars, with waitresses. And curtains to block out the riff raff..
07-23-2014, 04:02 PM #845MotownSports Fan
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07-23-2014, 04:08 PM #846
No, game 2 in Oakland.
AlAl came in and loaded the bases and Porcello gave up a hit..
07-23-2014, 04:21 PM #847
If may be more difficult to pitch today than in the 70s, but I don't think that addresses the oddity of the bi-modal distribution. It seems like there should be a lot of guys targeted for in between 60 and 200 innings. One idea I've always liked is something like this: Have three regular starters, three pitchers that pitch three innings each in game 4 and three pitchers that pitch three innings each in game 5, plus three pure relievers. The six guys that pitch games 4,5 can also relieve one per week. This will take some careful bullpen management, but it seems like it would be easier to find three 200+ innings pitchers and six 120 inning pitchers than five 200 inning pitchers.
07-23-2014, 05:35 PM #848It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl Sagan http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/...yx-d41sg12.png
07-23-2014, 08:56 PM #849
I'm not too excited about this possibility - the Phillies would need to be including a nice chunk of cash.
Double-A Reading is playing Erie this afternoon in Erie, and the Phillies planned to have a scout there to watch Tigers right-hander Jake Thompson, who pitched last week in the All-Star Futures Game. The Tigers drafted him in the second round of the 2012 First-Year Player Draft. Thompson, 20, recently received a promotion to Erie after going 6-4 with a 3.14 ERA in 16 starts with Class A Lakewood.
The Tigers are looking for bullpen help and it is well known Jonathan Papelbon and Antonio Bastardo are available.2015AAT-Daniel Fields 2014AAT-Buck Farmer 2013AAT-Mr Ilitch 2013 2012AAT-Dixon Machado
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07-23-2014, 09:09 PM #850It stays on my head in here, this is the SHAKE SIGNAL, the MASTER SHAKE SIGNAL, you got that?
07-23-2014, 09:28 PM #851
Papelbon's declining velocity and K's concern me. Bastardo has great stuff but is wild. Unless they think they can cut down on his walks, he wouldn't inspire much confidence although he is better than Coke and Krol.
I think Philly wants to pull off what Boston did a few years ago by unloading a bunch of large contracts and reload quickly. Based off rumors, it seems like they'd be ok parting with Lee, Papelbon and Rollins and mid tier guys like Bastardo.
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07-23-2014, 09:45 PM #852
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Thompson would be tough to lose for Papelbon, unless the Phils are eating most of his salary and throwing in Jimmy Rollins.
07-23-2014, 09:45 PM #853
The Tigers don't have much to trade, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had to deal Crawford or Thompson for relief help. Teams know the Tigers need relievers desperately and they aren't going to give them away for fringe prospects
07-23-2014, 10:02 PM #854
If they are dealing Thompson in a package, which I have no problem with, I'd want a difference maker like Soria or Benoit.It stays on my head in here, this is the SHAKE SIGNAL, the MASTER SHAKE SIGNAL, you got that?
07-23-2014, 10:07 PM #855It stays on my head in here, this is the SHAKE SIGNAL, the MASTER SHAKE SIGNAL, you got that?
07-23-2014, 10:24 PM #856
2014 Trade Deadline Chatter
Having a pitcher on the Tigers named "Bastardo" would make game threads so much fun I'd be enticed to pull an "Ali" and come out of retirement. If he were a starter I definitely would."If you want a guarantee, buy a toaster."--Clint Eastwood
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07-23-2014, 10:45 PM #857
07-23-2014, 11:11 PM #858
Soria for Thompson and Knebel is a hot rumor right now...possibly trolling...not sure of the source."The first time I met Destro, he asked me if he should have his entire head coated in chrome. I said "No! How would you do that? How would that even work?"
07-23-2014, 11:23 PM #859
Soria to the Tigers for Thompson and Knebel.
Done deal per Morosi.
Based on the return for Street, that makes sense. Both LA and Detroit have weak farm systems so a few of their top 10 prospects were going to have to go the other way.
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07-23-2014, 11:23 PM #860
07-23-2014, 11:24 PM #861
Morosi just tweeted. Done deal pending physical.
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 3m
Tigers' trade for Joakim Soria will be finalized once physical exams are completed, source says. Players are agreed upon.GO TIGERS
07-23-2014, 11:26 PM #862It stays on my head in here, this is the SHAKE SIGNAL, the MASTER SHAKE SIGNAL, you got that?
07-23-2014, 11:26 PM #863
07-23-2014, 11:27 PM #864
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS 1m
soria has indeed been traded to the #tigers, confirmed
07-23-2014, 11:28 PM #865
I welcome Soria with arms wide open.
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07-23-2014, 11:28 PM #866
Retweeted by Tim Brown
Kyle Bogenschutz @KyleBogie 43m
Per a source, #Tigers set to acquire #Rangers right handed closer Joakim Soria. Corey Knebel & Jake Thompson head to Texas in the deal.2015AAT-Daniel Fields 2014AAT-Buck Farmer 2013AAT-Mr Ilitch 2013 2012AAT-Dixon Machado
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07-23-2014, 11:30 PM #867
I think they still need to get a LH reliever"The first time I met Destro, he asked me if he should have his entire head coated in chrome. I said "No! How would you do that? How would that even work?"
07-23-2014, 11:31 PM #868
So by not re-signing Benoit, they save around $5M over the next 2 years (I would guess) but lose 2 good prospects.It stays on my head in here, this is the SHAKE SIGNAL, the MASTER SHAKE SIGNAL, you got that?
07-23-2014, 11:34 PM #869
A lot of people won't like this deal, but Soria was the best reliever available. They gave up two good prospects, but I don't think either is elite and so much can go wrong with pitching prospects. I'm satisfied with the trade.
07-23-2014, 11:34 PM #870
Soria's an elite reliever and they get him next year too. They should still have enough ammo to pull off another move if they want.Dreaming about a repeat of 1984, 1968, 1945 and 1935
07-23-2014, 11:35 PM #871
Save? They're paying Nathan $20 million...Benoit got like $15.75 mill.
07-23-2014, 11:36 PM #872
07-23-2014, 11:41 PM #873
Kinda funny to read some of the desperate Philly fans now worried they can't get rid of Papelbon and his money.
Go get the LHR now.."The first time I met Destro, he asked me if he should have his entire head coated in chrome. I said "No! How would you do that? How would that even work?"
07-23-2014, 11:41 PM #874
Outside of Hill and maybe Willy Adames, I'm not sure if there is another prospect that is too good to be traded for an elite reliever who has team control for 2015, as well. They don't have many guys for teams to choose from.Dreaming about a repeat of 1984, 1968, 1945 and 1935
07-23-2014, 11:41 PM #875
I think Thompson is a poor-mans Jacob Turner, and Knebel is a better version of Chance Ruffin. We'll see how they turn out.It stays on my head in here, this is the SHAKE SIGNAL, the MASTER SHAKE SIGNAL, you got that?
07-23-2014, 11:43 PM #876
Yankees just punked the Rangers...on a rain delay. They get away with a lot those Yankees.
07-23-2014, 11:44 PM #877
I liked both prospects quite a bit. I think Texas did well. But, I also think the Tigers had to make the move too. Pretty fair deal for both sides.Dreaming about a repeat of 1984, 1968, 1945 and 1935
07-23-2014, 11:45 PM #878It stays on my head in here, this is the SHAKE SIGNAL, the MASTER SHAKE SIGNAL, you got that?
07-23-2014, 11:47 PM #879
The team as currently constructed is capable of winning the World Series!AAT: Ian Kinsler
07-23-2014, 11:48 PM #880
Gabe Kapler loves this for us
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