Pistons Offseason

**Deleterious** · 12-08-2011, 02:19 PM

Pistons negotiating with Stuckey, all this could be done today...

**drownwithyou** · 12-08-2011, 02:21 PM

Gotta keep a talented team like this together as long as possible, great job Dumars.

**Euphdude** · 12-08-2011, 02:24 PM

Is it possible the only new face on this year's team will be Brandon Knight? If so is it possible that we might be the worst team in the Eastern Conference?

**Euphdude** · 12-08-2011, 02:30 PM

Vincent Goodwill is tweeting the Pistons have signed / offered Jonas Jerebko 4 years $16 million.

Twitter

**Deleterious** · 12-08-2011, 02:32 PM

Thats actually pretty good for Jerebko. I was thinking more around $5M a year. His injury probably saved the Pistons a lot of money.

**alwaysthrowheat** · 12-08-2011, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Euphdude

Is it possible the only new face on this year's team will be Brandon Knight? If so is it possible that we might be the worst team in the Eastern Conference?

Definitely have the worst roster.

**Betrayer** · 12-08-2011, 03:57 PM

Sweet deal on Jerebko. That's a solid price even if he doesn't improve one bit from what we saw before his injury.

**Deleterious** · 12-09-2011, 05:46 PM

Philadelphia preparing to shop Marreese Speights, Pistons should inquire - Detroit Bad Boys

**Deleterious** · 12-09-2011, 05:49 PM

@vgoodwill

Jake Voskuhl, Kareem Rush, Walker Russell Jr. and Brian Hamilton have been invited to #Pistons training camp

#Pistons signed Brandon Knight and Vernon Macklin to rookie scale deals

**azzurri** · 12-09-2011, 08:06 PM

So what does the roster look like?

Starters:
G Ben Gordon (6'3")
G Rodney Stuckey (6'5")
F Tayshaun Prince (6'9")
F Jonas Jerebko (6'10")
C Greg Monroe (6'11")

Off the bench:
G Will Bynum
G Brandon Knight
F Charlie Villanueva
F Austin Daye
F Jason Maxiell
C Ben Wallace

Is Chris Wilcox still on the team? The starters don't look too bad. Off chance for a 30 win team (30-36)?

**MC24** · 12-09-2011, 08:10 PM

Well, it doesn't sound like Stuckey will be back...just check out his Twitter. What an *******. Oh well, would have just been another large contract for us...

Hope this is the lineup:

PG Brandon Knight
SG Ben Gordon
SF Tayshaun Prince
PF Jonas Jerebko
C Greg Monroe

If BG has a nice first half, we could probably find a trade partner.

**azzurri** · 12-09-2011, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by MC24

Well, it doesn't sound like Stuckey will be back...just check out his Twitter. What an *******. Oh well, would have just been another large contract for us...

Is that his real account?? It's not verified and some of the things he tweets make me think it can't be him.

Rodney Stuckey @HimOn1

**ScrubBeaterUpper** · 12-09-2011, 08:31 PM

Defintely suspicious, but it was retweeted by Vince Goodwill, so Vince should know if it is real or not. I imagine he's in the know on stuff like that

**Hart** · 12-09-2011, 09:00 PM

What was said on his twitter (if it was him)? I do not have a account and don't really care to create one.

**Hart** · 12-09-2011, 09:06 PM

Just found it here:

Unverified Rodney Stuckey twitter account tweets about wanting out of Detroit « PistonPowered

Honestly, I do not have any hard feelings if that is him. He is only speaking his mind and not really bad mouthing the Pistons. He just wants out from a team that is clearly still a long ways from winning. Can we do a sign and trade with him? The return does not have to be that great...just something decent so we don't lose him for nothing.

**Bambino Lino** · 12-09-2011, 09:45 PM

There's no way that's him! Here are some of that user's tweets..

@rodstuckey3 Grow up. U know Ur not me. I can't believe u have to try and act like someone u r really not.

@rodstuckey3 I don't need to tell u nothing. U tell me where r u at right now?

@mtedder22: @HimOn1 I feel bad for you..This team is going nowhere fast. You could be an awesome scorer, off the bench, on a good team!”

**Vonlenska** · 12-09-2011, 09:52 PM

@rodstuckey3 doesn't exist..

**Betrayer** · 12-10-2011, 01:12 AM

I really, really hope it is his account. Whatever gets the Pistons to let him go will make me a happy man. If both Stuckey and Rip are gone, I'll consider it a successful off-season. If only we could find a way to add CV to the mix as well.

**RJBBREZ** · 12-10-2011, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by Betrayer

I really, really hope it is his account. Whatever gets the Pistons to let him go will make me a happy man. If both Stuckey and Rip are gone, I'll consider it a successful off-season. If only we could find a way to add CV to the mix as well.

That would be a dream scenario.

**Deleterious** · 12-12-2011, 11:16 AM

@WojYahooNBA

Free agent forward Reggie Williams still talking to several teams, including Charlotte, Detroit, Sacramento, Denver, Toronto, sources say.

**Deleterious** · 12-12-2011, 11:36 AM

PISTONS: Pistons Sign Guard-Forward Damien Wilkins

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. – The Detroit Pistons announced today that they have signed guard-forward Damien Wilkins. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Wilkins, 31, appeared in 52 games for the Atlanta Hawks last season averaging 3.5 points and 1.7 rebounds in 13.0 minutes per game. He appeared in eight postseason contests with the Hawks, averaging 1.8 points and 1.0 rebounds in 4.9 minutes per game. The seven-year NBA pro has career averages of 6.8 points, 2.6 rebounds, 1.5 assists and 20.0 minutes in 442 games with Seattle, Oklahoma City, Minnesota and Atlanta. Undrafted out of the University of Georgia, Wilkins enjoyed his best season a pro with Seattle in 2007-08 when he averaged 9.2 points, 3.2 rebounds and 2.0 assists in 76 games (31 starts). He scored a career-high 41 points with a season-high nine rebounds at Atlanta (11/16) that season in addition to notching his 2,000th career point vs. Phoenix (3/19/08).

Wilkins is the son of 13-year NBA veteran Gerald Wilkins and nephew of Atlanta Hawks legend Dominique Wilkins.

For in-depth analysis by website editor Keith Langlois and special video interviews, visit THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE DETROIT PISTONS, the official source for news and features on the Detroit Pistons.

Another body for the bench.

**Deleterious** · 12-13-2011, 02:46 PM

It's starting already.

@Vee_Ellis4Freep

FWIW: @CV31 a bucket machine during part we can see. #Pistons.

**Deleterious** · 12-13-2011, 02:50 PM

@vgoodwill

CV looked good for the white team, hitting perimeter shots, getting hands on the ball and running the floor... #Pistons

As you read these, I picture your eyes rolling.

**Betrayer** · 12-13-2011, 03:11 PM

Sweet, another guard! Who needs big men.

**azzurri** · 12-13-2011, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Deleterious

It's starting already.

@Vee_Ellis4Freep: FWIW: @CV31 a bucket machine during part we can see. #Pistons.

Apparently they can't "see" the defensive end of the court.

**Deleterious** · 12-13-2011, 04:24 PM

First preseason game is this Friday and its on FSD.

**T&P_Fan** · 12-13-2011, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by azzurri

Apparently they can't "see" the defensive end of the court.

haha, nice.

Friday night preseason game, I will watch only because I never do anything on Friday night, and I am really craving some NBA.

I am guessing the Thursday schedule will be a little more jam packed this year.

**Elevate** · 12-14-2011, 10:55 AM

chadfordinsider Chad Ford
Just filed to ESPN: Pistons & restricted FA Rodney Stuckey at an impasse. Stuckey balking at Pistons' 5 year, $40-45 million offer

Wait.... AAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Hey Stuckey, take a hike buddy.

**Deleterious** · 12-14-2011, 11:08 AM

Told ya he is gonna get paid.

@chadfordinsider

Stuckey's reps have contacted a couple of teams about sign-and-trades. Very unlikely Pistons will agree to one. They want to keep him.

Stuckey's people threatening to take Pistons' 1 year qualifying offer. If they do, he's an unrestricted FA in summer of 2012.

**Truth** · 12-14-2011, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Deleterious

Told ya he is gonna get paid.

@chadfordinsider

Why wouldn't the Pistons look at sign and trade options?

**Deleterious** · 12-14-2011, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Truth

Why wouldn't the Pistons look at sign and trade options?

They don't want to encourage him to find a deal that pays him more than they are offering in return for bad players. Then they have to pay him or trade him for crap. The less outside options he has, the more leverage they have in negotiations.

**Euphdude** · 12-14-2011, 12:02 PM

How can Dumars honestly believe paying Stuckey $10M a year for 4 years is a good move?

**Deleterious** · 12-14-2011, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Euphdude

How can Dumars honestly believe paying Stuckey $10M a year for 4 years is a good move?

It's a 5 year offer. But $8-$9M a year doesn't make it hurt any less in my opinion.

On the other hand, I can certainly see why Stuckey is asking for this type of money.

**Euphdude** · 12-14-2011, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Deleterious

It's a 5 year offer. But $8-$9M a year doesn't make it hurt any less in my opinion.

On the other hand, I can certainly see why Stuckey is asking for this type of money.

Stuckey is justified in asking for this kind of money. I don't think he's worth that kind of money to the Pistons though, and I really don't understand how Dumars is trying to build this roster. It's as if he is satisfied having the Pistons be stuck in NBA purgatory.

**Deleterious** · 12-14-2011, 12:38 PM

@WojYahooNBA

New York, Portland, Charlotte and Detroit are the four finalists for forward Reggie Williams, league sources tell Y! Sports.

**azzurri** · 12-14-2011, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Deleterious

@chadfordinsider
Stuckey's people threatening to take Pistons' 1 year qualifying offer. If they do, he's an unrestricted FA in summer of 2012.

The Pistons should hope he signs for the 1 year qualifying offer, which I believe is only $3.8 million or so. Stuckey will play hard this year in order to get a big payday in the summer. If he plays well, good for us in 2011-12 and maybe we enter the FA market to keep him...if he plays lousy or sulks, let him go at the end of the season. Seems like a win-win to me to push Stuckey in the direction to sign the qualifying offer.

**Deleterious** · 12-14-2011, 02:35 PM

97.1 just said the 5/$40-$45 offer is not true.

**Nastradamus** · 12-14-2011, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Deleterious

They don't want to encourage him to find a deal that pays him more than they are offering in return for bad players. Then they have to pay him or trade him for crap. The less outside options he has, the more leverage they have in negotiations.

A sign and trade generally means the team has no cap space to sign him, so they have to trade some players off their cap for him. That means we have all the leverage to say, give us X or we won't help you out.

I would probably not go over 5/40-45, but the market rate is pretty high I suppose.

**Nastradamus** · 12-14-2011, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by azzurri

The Pistons should hope he signs for the 1 year qualifying offer, which I believe is only $3.8 million or so. Stuckey will play hard this year in order to get a big payday in the summer. If he plays well, good for us in 2011-12 and maybe we enter the FA market to keep him...if he plays lousy or sulks, let him go at the end of the season. Seems like a win-win to me to push Stuckey in the direction to sign the qualifying offer.

or he just plays well and walks.

**Deleterious** · 12-14-2011, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Nastradamus

A sign and trade generally means the team has no cap space to sign him, so they have to trade some players off their cap for him. That means we have all the leverage to say, give us X or we won't help you out.

I would probably not go over 5/40-45, but the market rate is pretty high I suppose.

Actually, I don't think that is true. Most sign and trades happen after a player is signed to an offer sheet. Then the two teams worked out a deal so the player could get an extra year and bigger raises by signing with his original team. Now that motivation is gone because they took it out in the new CBA. Because they signed him to an offer sheet, that means they have the cap room to make the deal without a S&T.