Game 66: Pistons Vs Hawks - 3/13/10

Deleterious · #1 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 09:18 AM

23-42 (Road: 7-24) @ 41-23 (Home: 25-7)

Live from Phillips Arena

Game Info: 7:00 pm EST Sat Mar 13, 2010

TV: No TV

Injury Report:

Detroit: Rodney Stuckey - Out (Dizziness). Ben Wallace - Doubtful (Knee). Chris Wilcox - Out (Back).

Atlanta: Maurice Evans - Questionable (Flu).

Season Series: Detroit 1-0
11/29/09 - DET 94 ATL 88 | Recap | Shot Chart | Game Thread

Standings

10 games behind the 8th seed.
Tied for 8th in lottery. 2.8% chance of getting the 1st pick.

Team Stats

Team Four Factors

eFG% .502 (11th of 30)
TOV% .113 (1st of 30)
ORB% .280 (5th of 30)
FT/FGA .223 (16th of 30)

Team Leaders

Win Shares Al Horford 8.4
Minutes Per Game Joe Johnson 38.1
Points Per Game Joe Johnson 21.4
Rebounds Per Game Al Horford 9.4
Assists Per Game Joe Johnson 4.7
Steals Per Game Josh Smith 1.7
Blocks Per Game Josh Smith 2.1

Team Four Factors

eFG% .468 (29th of 30)
TOV% .131 (11th of 30)
ORB% .310 (2nd of 30)
FT/FGA .216 (22nd of 30)

Team Leaders

Win Shares Ben Wallace 4.3
Minutes Per Game Rodney Stuckey 35.4
Points Per Game Rodney Stuckey 17.1
Rebounds Per Game Ben Wallace 9.1
Assists Per Game Rodney Stuckey 5.0
Steals Per Game Rodney Stuckey 1.4
Blocks Per Game Ben Wallace 1.2

Deleterious · #2 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 09:21 AM

No TV tonight.

Rough 5 game stretch:

@Atlanta
@Boston
Cleveland
@Indiana
@Cleveland

The first Cleveland game is the second night of a back to back, with travel.

dalemotown · #3 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deleterious

Rough 5 game stretch:

@Atlanta
@Boston
Cleveland
@Indiana
@Cleveland

The first Cleveland game is the second night of a back to back, with travel.

Good.

Count me in with the crowd that says screw it and rise up the lottery draft board.
Winning at this point means absolutely nothing. They need a young star on that team.

ScrubBeaterUpper · #4 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dalemotown

Good.

Count me in with the crowd that says screw it and rise up the lottery draft board.
Winning at this point means absolutely nothing. They need a young star on that team.

Yeah, I wanna see maximum effort, but still lose in the end. This stretch will be fun (well funner) to watch. High effort, many L's.

ScrubBeaterUpper · #5 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 12:35 PM

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EatEmUpTigers711 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 06:16 PM

Ustream & JustinTV have some streams showing the game.

Deleterious · #7 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 06:37 PM

Atlanta up 30-12 at the end of the 1st.

EatEmUpTigers711 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 07:12 PM

69-41 at halftime. Pistons are getting dominated, didn't expect anything else.

Deleterious · #9 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 07:13 PM

Hawks up 69-41 at half.

No mas, no mas.

Deleterious · #10 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 07:36 PM

JJ goes out with an injury. Looks to be his shoulder.

Deleterious · #11 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 07:59 PM

94-79 Hawks with 10 minutes left in the game. Pistons had it to 14 at one point.

Deleterious · #12 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 08:06 PM

98-87 Hawks with 6 minutes left.

Deleterious · #13 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 08:12 PM

102-89 with 4:30 left.

JJ is back btw

Deleterious · #14 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 08:24 PM

Hawks win it 112-99. They shot 63% for the game.

EatEmUpTigers711 · #15 (**permalink**) 03-13-2010, 08:53 PM

Maxiell had a hell of a game, at least it looks like he did from the box score (stopped watching before halftime). 19 points & 12 boards tonight, compared to his 6 PPG & 5 RPG averages. He's been getting his fair shot at playing time since Ben has been hurt, but tonight was easily his best performance so far this year, and honestly, from the stats, maybe one of his best games in his career.

Deleterious · #16 (**permalink**) 03-14-2010, 06:36 PM

The problem with Max is his size. When you play someone his size starter minutes, you are in trouble. 58 points in the paint against Atlanta, 48 against Washington. Certainly not all his fault, but having a normal sized center would help that. I hate to bang on Max though, he has played really well the past month. Maybe he can secure a spot as the first big off the bench or up his trade value the rest of the year.

I know some on this board suggested BG play some point earlier this year. If you were able to watch the game you can see why that is such a bad idea. When Bynum got into foul trouble BG took over at point and it was ugly. Turnovers, lack of ball movement, end of shot clock shots, etc.

sportz4life · #17 (**permalink**) 03-14-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Deleterious

The problem with Max is his size. When you play someone his size starter minutes, you are in trouble. 58 points in the paint against Atlanta, 48 against Washington. Certainly not all his fault, but having a normal sized center would help that. I hate to bang on Max though, he has played really well the past month. Maybe he can secure a spot as the first big off the bench or up his trade value the rest of the year.

I know some on this board suggested BG play some point earlier this year. If you were able to watch the game you can see why that is such a bad idea. When Bynum got into foul trouble BG took over at point and it was ugly. Turnovers, lack of ball movement, end of shot clock shots, etc.

Maxiell is a mirage, the numbers he puts up (on a horrible team) are a functon of how trerrible the frontline players he is surrounded by, the outcome of the teams frontocurt performance against decent opponenets (12-33) against teams above Detroit in the standings, demonstrate this point.

BG is a solid player, with specific skills. He has been so profoundly misused and miscast, that they should fire Dumars just for wasting the 10MM he spent on the execution of this idea.

Hart · #18 (**permalink**) 03-14-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sportz4life

Maxiell is a mirage, the numbers he puts up (on a horrible team) are a functon of how trerrible the frontline players he is surrounded by, the outcome of the teams frontocurt performance against decent opponenets (12-33) against teams above Detroit in the standings, demonstrate this point.

BG is a solid player, with specific skills. He has been so profoundly misused and miscast, that they should fire Dumars just for wasting the 10MM he spent on the execution of this idea.

There is always a lot of talk on this board about mistake free agent signings and poor personnel makeup. That is fine but that is now a dead horse in my mind. What i want to know is how can we get the most of the players we have. Since you brought up BG, what role can the Pistons use BG in too maximize his talent? Does he have to be a starter? If we found a competent point guard, could BG turn into our Jason Terry of sorts? Or is this impossible because Rip commands so many minutes as a starter?

sportz4life · #19 (**permalink**) 03-14-2010, 09:14 PM

BG needs a better front line to set some screens and a PG with skills andd court sense to deliver him the ball, but also deliver the ball to bigs on the dish..

He is miscast..when he plays is less relevant than who, he plays with. Rodney Stuckey is the porrest passing PG in the NBA, doesn't kbnow how to dish on the drive, kick from the drive or deliver off the curl..

Hart · #20 (**permalink**) 03-14-2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sportz4life

BG needs a better front line to set some screens and a PG with skills andd court sense to deliver him the ball, but also deliver the ball to bigs on the dish..

He is miscast..when he plays is less relevant than who, he plays with. Rodney Stuckey is the porrest passing PG in the NBA, doesn't kbnow how to dish on the drive, kick from the drive or deliver off the curl..

One thing I have discovered about BG this year by watching him every game is that he is very much a pick and roll player who doesn't thrive off moving without the ball. To that end, I think a big guy who plays the pick and roll well would almost serve him better than a point guard who can dish.

sportz4life · #21 (**permalink**) 03-14-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart

One thing I have discovered about BG this year by watching him every game is that he is very much a pick and roll player who doesn't thrive off moving without the ball. To that end, I think a big guy who plays the pick and roll well would almost serve him better than a point guard who can dish.

That too..he spots up pretty strong..