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    Having watched Adams and Brewster at Ohio State. I agree Adams is a holder and in my opinion, both players were underwhelming in their stay at OSU. Of course, the fact that they did not met their hype comming in may not be entirely their fault. Alli in all, I don't see either of these players being anything special at te NFL level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsallgood8989 View Post
    Having watched Adams and Brewster at Ohio State. I agree Adams is a holder and in my opinion, both players were underwhelming in their stay at OSU. Of course, the fact that they did not met their hype comming in may not be entirely their fault. Alli in all, I don't see either of these players being anything special at te NFL level.
    Adams has a lot of potential, it depends on him whether he reaches it or not. Most of his flaws are coachable, I think if you get him motivated and focused he could be above average. Brewster, on the otherhand, isn't anything special IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGod19 View Post
    No, sir, I do not know it all...but I'm capable of looking at things past a 40 time that are much more important to being a good football player.
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    Strength, varied specialized positional physical abilities, intelligence, awareness, work ethic, etc., etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzer1 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGod19 View Post
    Smartass
    #1 priority should always be speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzer1 View Post
    #1 priority should always be speed.
    That's just ridiculous, you need people with the correct combination of size, speed, strength and ability...I know you know that...just because he can run like the wind doesn't make him a good football player or a good fit. He's not very good, if he ran a 4.6 he would be a 5th rounder at best because of what he lacks as a player...he's not a good value in the first at all, I wouldn't take him until the late 2nd or 3rd round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzer1 View Post
    #1 priority should always be speed.
    Yeah, If you are drafting a team for madden and can control the player with a joystick.

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    A few players jumping out at me that could be available in the 2nd for us are WR Joe Adams, RB Doug Martin, S George Iloka and DE Andre Branch
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGod19 View Post
    A few players jumping out at me that could be available in the 2nd for us are WR Joe Adams, RB Doug Martin, S George Iloka and DE Andre Branch
    I like Martin and Harrison Smith.
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    I really like Josh Robinson from UCF in the 2nd. Fast, athletic corner who contained AJ Green pretty well when the two were matched up.
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    McShay's new mock is out...he has us taking Cordy Glenn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastradamus View Post
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    He can start at either guard position and ROT...he's a great player.
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    I like Glenn just fine,tho boisedix expose him a bit. I do not want a g or rt in the first tho at all. Our ol was very good and we need athletes for the back 7 first and foremost. 15th in ypc with **** rbs and great sack per attempt ratio. Plus the sick offensives production to back the stats. Id understand a lt or c due go age concerns and the value, but still prefer d. Good lb and db class where we Pi k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastradamus View Post
    I like Glenn just fine,tho boisedix expose him a bit. I do not want a g or rt in the first tho at all. Our ol was very good and we need athletes for the back 7 first and foremost. 15th in ypc with **** rbs and great sack per attempt ratio. Plus the sick offensives production to back the stats. Id understand a lt or c due go age concerns and the value, but still prefer d. Good lb and db class where we Pi k
    I don't think we go OL in the first anyway...just not the front office's drafting m.o. There is one thing we can count on, this staff will pick the top player on their board and trying to guess who will be left at that spot is just that...a guess. I'm hoping Barron falls...but I doubt it.
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    The official combine invite list...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGod19 View Post
    I don't think we go OL in the first anyway...just not the front office's drafting m.o. There is one thing we can count on, this staff will pick the top player on their board and trying to guess who will be left at that spot is just that...a guess. I'm hoping Barron falls...but I doubt it.
    Id love Barron and think he could last. I think o line hasn't been the m.o. though because it hasn't been a need and still might not be. If its a need or a best player scenario they'll do it.

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    I think best player has been the MO. If it's the OL, then so be it. I also think they probably feel the same I do, that you don't need first rounders on the line. They don't score TD's.
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    Neither do DTs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagnam View Post
    Neither do DTs.
    They prevent them. My point is, look at the very best OL's out there, and most of them were built with mid round picks. The Texans don't have a single first round, iirc. Also, the Saints, Giants, Patriots and Packers are built mostly around mid round picks, although the Packers have been drafting OL with low first rounders lately. The Pats only have a couple of low first rounders, and the Giants don't have a single first rounder. Look at teams that have drafted multiple high first round OL, like the Rams. They don't have any receivers. Not a coincidence in my book.
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    They prevent them as much as an OL creates them.

    I would consider 23rd a low first rounder.
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    A player like Cordy Glenn would be rather tempting at 23. Could play all five positions if asked with the potential of being a dominating guard.

    I have typically been with traditional wisdom that you don't draft a guard in the first round, but the best offensives lines of late have relied on a pair of dominating interior linemen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin' Norman View Post
    A player like Cordy Glenn would be rather tempting at 23. Could play all five positions if asked with the potential of being a dominating guard.

    I have typically been with traditional wisdom that you don't draft a guard in the first round, but the best offensives lines of late have relied on a pair of dominating interior linemen.
    If he is that versatile, then he could be worth drafting at 23.

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    I don't think he is a player you would want as your franchise LT, but he can play the position. Think Michael Oher.
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    Glenn played LT at Georgia, and showed that he's not quick enough to handle the Jared Allen's. He should thrive inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzer1 View Post
    Glenn played LT at Georgia, and showed that he's not quick enough to handle the Jared Allen's. He should thrive inside.
    Agree with this, He played LT in the bowls and was lacking technique, agility and footwork, looks like a RG or maybe a LG, but possibly a good one .

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    He had one of the best performances at LT at the Senior Bowl. He shut down Upshaw all week.

    Again, I wouldn't draft him to be a 10-year starter at the position, but the ability to fill in if asked is a plus.
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    What will be interesting in this years draft is we know the Lions will draft BPA and altho we have made good progress, we still lack depth everywhere!
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