Ronnie Brown to Lions

**azzurri** · 10-20-2011, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

My initial thoughts on that rumor are that I doubt the Lions would try to trade a guy whom they knew had a brain tumor.

I would think that they would be concerned that it would get out and hurt their credibility with other teams / players in future dealings -> risk would be too great to bear for the benefit of acquiring Ronnie Brown. JMO.

It could be that the tumor was discovered during the Eagles' physical evaluation. Hopefully this is just a bad rumor and that Harrison can get back on the field for the Lions.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 10-20-2011, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by azzurri

It could be that the tumor was discovered during the Eagles' physical evaluation. Hopefully this is just a bad rumor and that Harrison can get back on the field for the Lions.

If the Lions and Harrison just found out about this and someone inside the Lions leaked it the same day, then that sounds incredibly insensitive to me. I have to imagine the Lions would have announced that in a more formal, respectful way.

I still think it is more to much more plausible it is a nonsense internet rumor than not.

**sagnam** · 10-20-2011, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

My initial thoughts on that rumor are that I doubt the Lions would try to trade a guy whom they knew had a brain tumor.

I would think that they would be concerned that it would get out and hurt their credibility with other teams / players in future dealings -> risk would be too great to bear for the benefit of acquiring Ronnie Brown. JMO.

My initial thought was the Eagles physical was when they discovered the tumor.

**moonwatcher** · 10-20-2011, 01:08 PM

That trade my have saved Harrison's life.

**sagnam** · 10-20-2011, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

If the Lions and Harrison just found out about this and someone inside the Lions leaked it the same day, then that sounds incredibly insensitive to me. I have to imagine the Lions would have announced that in a more formal, respectful way.

I still think it is more to much more plausible it is a nonsense internet rumor than not.

I doubt the Lions would want to announce anything at all. If this were true then the person who leaked it is insensitive, but I don't see how that reflects on the team. I certainly doubt the Lions would approve of something being leaked.

That being said, I think you are right that this is most likely just nonsense.

**sagnam** · 10-20-2011, 01:17 PM

Nevermind. It's true.

Jerome Harrison has brain tumor

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 20, 2011, 1:03 PM EDT

The proposed trade of running back Jerome Harrison to Philadelphia was voided because Harrison was found to have a brain tumor.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter breaks the news and points out that the failed trade could be a blessing in disguise for Harrison. Without the trade, Harrison wouldn’t have taken a physical that revealed the tumor.

This helps explain how Harrison wasn’t on the injury report last week: The Lions had no idea.

Hopefully Harrison caught this early and can treat it aggressively now. Our thoughts are with Harrison and we wish him good health.

Jerome Harrison has brain tumor | ProFootballTalk

**tigerbomb13** · 10-20-2011, 01:20 PM

Wow. Let's hope that trade saves Harrison's life. Here's hoping for the best.

**Mr. Bigglesworth** · 10-20-2011, 01:26 PM

Wow - well I stand corrected.

Sagnam - my meaning was that if a member of the Lions staff leaked the info, I think it reflects poorly on the organization.

**Big Frame** · 10-20-2011, 03:18 PM

How crappy are the Lions Doctor's? He just had a physical, and they didnt catch it.

**EatEmUpTigers711** · 10-20-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Big Frame

How crappy are the Lions Doctor's? He just had a physical, and they didnt catch it.

Everything that I've seen says that this wouldn't have been found had he not been traded, so when exactly did he have this physical from the Lions that they didn't catch it in?

**Big Frame** · 10-20-2011, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by EatEmUpTigers711

Everything that I've seen says that this wouldn't have been found had he not been traded, so when exactly did he have this physical from the Lions that they didn't catch it in?

Would you sign a player with out giving him a physical?

**Shinma** · 10-20-2011, 04:25 PM

How often is a cat scan included in a physical? (Which is i assume how the Philly docs found it?)

**Stormin' Norman** · 10-20-2011, 04:27 PM

It's been two months since Harrison was signed, why wouldn't people assumed that those two months made the difference between "seen" and "unseen"?

**lesgoblu02** · 10-20-2011, 05:19 PM

Because it's more fun to assume the Lions doctors are incompetent morons.

**sagnam** · 10-20-2011, 05:28 PM

Like Kevin Rand.

**azzurri** · 10-20-2011, 06:55 PM

The Lions had Harrison inactive for the past 2-3 weeks with no reason given. I wonder if he was feeling lethargic or ill and just wasn't cutting it on the practice field. Totally understandable now...best wishes for a speedy recovery.

**EatEmUpTigers711** · 10-20-2011, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Big Frame

Would you sign a player with out giving him a physical?

Originally Posted by Stormin' Norman

It's been two months since Harrison was signed, why wouldn't people assumed that those two months made the difference between "seen" and "unseen"?

Originally Posted by lesgoblu02

Because it's more fun to assume the Lions doctors are incompetent morons.

There's your answer Big Frame....

He probably hasn't had a physical since he was signed, which was what....2-3 months ago. But I'm sure it's absolutely impossible for something like a brain tumor to have formed since then....

**Shinma** · 10-20-2011, 09:10 PM

Which is more likely?

A. Harrison didn't get a physical before joining the Lions organization.

B. Harrison's physical didn't include a cat scan.

Come on now.

**Big Frame** · 10-20-2011, 09:59 PM

How come Philly's physicals include cat scans and ours dont? Dont that seam odd? And its a brain tumor, its not like one day he didnt have it and now he does.

**Shinma** · 10-20-2011, 10:13 PM

A physical for a playing incoming via trade vs. a player incoming via free agency probably differ too. Although they shouldn't.

**sagnam** · 10-20-2011, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Big Frame

How come Philly's physicals include cat scans and ours dont? Dont that seam odd? And its a brain tumor, its not like one day he didnt have it and now he does.

We don't know what each team's physical entails. Maybe he's developed symptoms since he was signed that triggered a CAT scan as part of the incoming physical.

You really don't think a brain tumor can go from undetectable to detectable in 2 months? So exactly how does that work? Does that mean you think it's always detectable from the day it forms? What if it formed in those 2 months? Or do you think it's not detectable until it grows to a certain size? What's to say it didn't reach that size until months after he was signed?

**PuNk42AE** · 10-20-2011, 10:44 PM

The question I have is who let the info slip because it doesn't seem like it came from Harrison. Which means that someone can be legally responsible for allowing personal data out. I would find it doubtful to be from the lions side more so than the eagles side.

**PuNk42AE** · 10-20-2011, 10:45 PM

HIPPA Violation

**sagnam** · 10-20-2011, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by PuNk42AE

The question I have is who let the info slip because it doesn't seem like it came from Harrison. Which means that someone can be legally responsible for allowing personal data out. I would find it doubtful to be from the lions side more so than the eagles side.

Originally Posted by EatEmUpTigers711

Take this for what it's worth, no idea if it's true or not....

Saw something on another Lions message board that claims someone on twitter (believed to be Linehans son), has tweeted that Harrison has a brain tumor....Terrible news if true, terrible thing to say if not true.

Last I saw, a Lions team spokesman said the team would have no further comment, so I wonder if we ever do find out what the issue is/was.

Rumored rumor source.

**EatEmUpTigers711** · 10-20-2011, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Big Frame

How come Philly's physicals include cat scans and ours dont? Dont that seam odd? And its a brain tumor, its not like one day he didnt have it and now he does.

Is this for real? What do you think? That he's had a brain tumor his whole life and nobody ever noticed it until just now? I mean if that's the case, it must not just be our medical staff, but Cleveland & Philly before this year must of had some dumpster medical staffs as well....

**EatEmUpTigers711** · 10-20-2011, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by sagnam

Rumored rumor source.

Well if Linehans son tweeted it, you've gotta figure he heard it from his dad. Any further than that, who knows, but it had to come down from someone on one of the medical staffs before anyone else found out.

**sagnam** · 10-20-2011, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by EatEmUpTigers711

Well if Linehans son tweeted it, you've gotta figure he heard it from his dad. Any further than that, who knows, but it had to come down from someone on one of the medical staffs before anyone else found out.

Unless Harrison told Linehan.

**EatEmUpTigers711** · 10-20-2011, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by sagnam

Unless Harrison told Linehan.

True. Like I said yesterday before the official word broke, I was wondering if they, meaning the Lions, were going to say anything else at all after saying they'd have no further comment about the voided trade. That being said, I don't think I've seen anyone on or from the Lions who have said anything about the actual reason behind the trade being voided.

I saw a clip from Schwartz after practice today, and he just said there are a lot of things that are involved in a trade, and that it didn't go through, and "I think that's about all I'll say on it." Really, the only thing I've seen is a Free Press report in which Harrisons sister said he was doing good, but didn't know anything beyond that.

**DetroitCity313** · 10-21-2011, 05:59 AM

This trade could have saved Harrison's life. I am guessing he hasn't seen the field much because he has been feeling a little off because of the tumor. I am also glad he has a contract, he will get the best care in the world for the tumor. Had he been a free agent, this could have been devastating for him and his family.

**84 Lives!!!** · 10-21-2011, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Big Frame

How come Philly's physicals include cat scans and ours dont? Dont that seam odd? And its a brain tumor, its not like one day he didnt have it and now he does.

The only reason the Philly team physicians gave him an MRI was because in his physical, he stated he had been having numerous headaches lately. In other words: 1) It's a recent issue, and 2) they would not normally have given him the MRI, except for his comments...

**Big Frame** · 10-21-2011, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by 84 Lives!!!

The only reason the Philly team physicians gave him an MRI was because in his physical, he stated he had been having numerous headaches lately. In other words: 1) It's a recent issue, and 2) they would not normally have given him the MRI, except for his comments...

I can live with that reasoning.

**Vonlenska** · 10-21-2011, 06:55 PM

"A league source told CSNPhilly.com that Harrison complained of headaches to Eagles team physician Gary Dorshimer during Wednesday's physical. The doctor ordered an MRI that revealed the tumor."

**Porcelain God** · 10-21-2011, 07:36 PM

Instead of focusing on why the Lions medical staff didn't catch it, I'm going to think how this random trade possibly saved a life. Imagine a world where weed and football are cures for our ills, literally.