Ochocinco to the Lions?

**joshd** · 04-29-2011, 09:12 AM

How would you feel about getting Ochocinco and not drafting a reciever this year? I know it's not likely just because Stafford and Calvin practiced with him the other day, although it certainly didn't hurt (LINK - Chad Ochocinco Down With Detroit? | *********.net )

I wouldn't mind getting him on a 1 year deal for a reasonable vet price, and waiting to draft a receiver until next year as the Lions need to focus on LB and DB in the next two rounds today!

**John_Brian_K** · 04-29-2011, 09:54 AM

God please no

**Porcelain God** · 04-29-2011, 10:21 AM

Too many distractions with that guy.

**Cecil** · 04-29-2011, 10:25 AM

What is so bad about Johnson? The guy has never been in trouble off the field. He's still a good receiver. He's just a showman. I'd gladly take him.

**T&P_Fan** · 04-29-2011, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Cecil

What is so bad about Johnson? The guy has never been in trouble off the field. He's still a good receiver. He's just a showman. I'd gladly take him.

I agree with Cecil. Johnson really hasnt had any real on or off the field issues. His teammates generally like him and he seems like a team player, only with flair. He would look great opposite CJ, and would really open things up for Burleson.

**John_Brian_K** · 04-29-2011, 11:02 AM

Did you guys think this through at all?

Johnson was a number 1 receiver his whole career. We have a 1, we have a 2 he would someohow become a slot receiver? He is not a slot receiver, not built like one and doesnt have the attitude to BE one.

For one we do not need to bring in a project at that position. We need some cheap, quick dude who can fill that spot in. We have needs elsewhere. He can be a great team mate all he wants. I would prefer to use that spot/money for something else.

**T&P_Fan** · 04-29-2011, 11:07 AM

Did you watch the Bengals last year? Johnson molded himself into a 1B/#2 receiver behind Owens. T.O. was their go to guy, which is why he got 9 TDS. And Johnson never complained once. He would be a perfect fit, allowing Nate to play the slot, we would be stacked. He probably wont be that expensive either.

**Cecil** · 04-29-2011, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by John_Brian_K

Did you guys think this through at all?

Johnson was a number 1 receiver his whole career. We have a 1, we have a 2 he would someohow become a slot receiver? He is not a slot receiver, not built like one and doesnt have the attitude to BE one.

For one we do not need to bring in a project at that position. We need some cheap, quick dude who can fill that spot in. We have needs elsewhere. He can be a great team mate all he wants. I would prefer to use that spot/money for something else.

Except Johnson is better than our number 2. How is Johnson a project? He's a proven accomplished receiver.

**drownwithyou** · 04-29-2011, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by John_Brian_K

Did you guys think this through at all?

Johnson was a number 1 receiver his whole career. We have a 1, we have a 2 he would someohow become a slot receiver? He is not a slot receiver, not built like one and doesnt have the attitude to BE one.

For one we do not need to bring in a project at that position. We need some cheap, quick dude who can fill that spot in. We have needs elsewhere. He can be a great team mate all he wants. I would prefer to use that spot/money for something else.

Nate is perfect for the slot, he would be the one sliding over.

I don't think Chad would be that big of a distraction, I think he'd help quite a bit. No more Bryant Johnson, and I think Nate would thrive in the slot with those two at WR. I think the Lions would look pretty good depending on the rest of the draft.

**Cecil** · 04-29-2011, 11:15 AM

I think Johnson's antics would go over well. He would immediately be a fan favorite. I think Johnson is misunderstood. When the Bengals were having the issues with players getting in trouble off the field, Johnson wasn't one of them. Johnson doesn't take off plays and pout like Randy Moss. Johnson isn't a general douchebag like Owens. Johnson is outspoken and flamboyant.

**RedRamage** · 04-29-2011, 12:25 PM

Yeah, I'm not really opposed to it. I mean the price would have to be right. I'd prefer to not have the distraction... but as far as distractions go, 85 is pretty minor in that regard. Lot's to smack talk, but very little in terms of real off the field problems.

**davidsb** · 04-29-2011, 01:44 PM

Get it done!

**Walt** · 04-29-2011, 01:47 PM

joshd finally got banned.

**sagnam** · 04-29-2011, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Walt

joshd finally got banned.

8 posts out of 10 creating new threads, all of which reference his blog. That'll happen.

**Biff Mayhem** · 04-29-2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by sagnam

8 posts out of 10 creating new threads, all of which reference his blog. That'll happen.

In 9 of his posts he links his blog and then doesn't reply at all.

**Walt** · 04-29-2011, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Biff Mayhem

In 9 of his posts he links his blog and then doesn't reply at all.

I know, I am surprised it took so long.

**John_Brian_K** · 04-29-2011, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by T&P_Fan

Did you watch the Bengals last year? Johnson molded himself into a 1B/#2 receiver behind Owens. T.O. was their go to guy, which is why he got 9 TDS. And Johnson never complained once. He would be a perfect fit, allowing Nate to play the slot, we would be stacked. He probably wont be that expensive either.

I would rather have Nate at the 2 then Johnson.

I am not a fan of Johnson and he is old. He is not the Johnson from 6 years ago. We need to get younger not older.

Just my opinion.

**Johnny Mac** · 04-29-2011, 02:46 PM

Am I missing something, they just mentioned in passing on NFLN that Green may be #1 in Cincy with TO and CJ possibly moving on, are the Bengals going to cut him?

**drownwithyou** · 04-29-2011, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Johnny Mac

Am I missing something, they just mentioned in passing on NFLN that Green may be #1 in Cincy with TO and CJ possibly moving on, are the Bengals going to cut him?

Chad and their coach basically laid it out in the media that they can't co-exist, and the Bengals brought the coach back. So it is pretty much assumed Chad is moving on.

**T&P_Fan** · 04-29-2011, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by John_Brian_K

I would rather have Nate at the 2 then Johnson.

I am not a fan of Johnson and he is old. He is not the Johnson from 6 years ago. We need to get younger not older.

Just my opinion.

He is still putting up good numbers, and he is just so much better than Burleson. Nate would be best served as a slot receiver, having Johnson at #2 lets us do that.

It would be a perfect fit.

**T&P_Fan** · 04-29-2011, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by drownwithyou

Chad and their coach basically laid it out in the media that they can't co-exist, and the Bengals brought the coach back. So it is pretty much assumed Chad is moving on.

This is what I assumed as well. Something has to give, Lewis is back which means CJ is gone.

**Johnny Mac** · 04-29-2011, 02:55 PM

I wouldnt trade anything for Chad, but if he got cut, Id add him, let Burleson play slot with the Johnsons on the outside

**Big Frame** · 04-29-2011, 04:18 PM

Would he be able to wear 85?

**cruzer1** · 04-29-2011, 04:54 PM

No thank you. They need a young gun with some wheels.

**John_Brian_K** · 04-29-2011, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cecil

Except Johnson is better than our number 2. How is Johnson a project? He's a proven accomplished receiver.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Nate is 29
Chad is 33

Age in Football is HUGE IMO. I prefer Nate all day. Just for the record I think I may have missed watching 5 Lions football games in the last 20 years. Just so you dont think I dont watch or really pay attention.

And he would be a project because he would have to learn a new system and switch spots. Different routes, different reads etc etc.

**John_Brian_K** · 04-29-2011, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Cecil

I think Johnson's antics would go over well. He would immediately be a fan favorite. I think Johnson is misunderstood. When the Bengals were having the issues with players getting in trouble off the field, Johnson wasn't one of them. Johnson doesn't take off plays and pout like Randy Moss. Johnson isn't a general douchebag like Owens. Johnson is outspoken and flamboyant.

Just for the record:

I personally never brought up his personality. I could not care less about how flamboyant he is. I LOVED it when Roy would do the whole first down thing. Even when we were down 20 points.....I mean what the hell else was there to get excited about?

**John_Brian_K** · 04-29-2011, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by T&P_Fan

He is still putting up good numbers, and he is just so much better than Burleson. Nate would be best served as a slot receiver, having Johnson at #2 lets us do that.

It would be a perfect fit.

I dont see where you think Chad is 'so much better' than Nate. I think Nate is a stud and could very well be a number 1 somewhere else, but again just my opinion on it.

**drownwithyou** · 04-29-2011, 05:26 PM

Nate is a nice receiver, but I don't think he's a number one (and he hasn't been his entire career). I think his skill set is perfect for the slot, so moving him there isn't a slight on him not even being a number two or whatever. I think the passing game would thrive with him in the slot and another person on the outside as the WR2.