Who could be there ? These are my Top 34 player as of today
Ndamukung Suh DT NEB
Gerald McCoy DT OKA
Eric Berry S Ten
Russell Okung OT OKA ST
Joe Haden CB FLA
Derrick Morgan DE G. T.
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My top 6, I'm Hoping Seattle will want to trade up 6 & 14 would be nice
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Sam Bradford QB OKA
Trent Williams OT OKA
Rolando McClain LB ALA
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Sam Bradford would have been # 1 on my board last season if he came out, now I think he could become the wild card of the draft.
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Dez Bryant WR OKA ST
C J Spiller RB CLEM
Carlos Dunlap DE FLA
Earl Thomas S TEX
Jason Pierre-Paul DE S. FLA
Kyle Wilson CB Boise ST
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Could Dunlap's off the field mistake drop him to 34 ? I don't think it will, but he would look nice in a Lions uniform.
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Anthony Davis OT Rut
Taylor Mays S USC
Mike Iupati OG IDA
Patrick Robinson CB FLA ST
Golden Tate WR N.D.
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Bryan Bulaga OT IOWA
Bruce Campbell OT MD
Jahvid Best RB CAL
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Sergio Kindle LB Tex
Brian Price DT UCLA
Jerry Hughes LB TCU
Jimmy Clausen QB N.D.
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I'm not a Clausen fan, But his numbers and the Offense he played in will help
his case.
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Ricky Sapp DE CLEM
Brandon Graham DE MICH
Brandon LaFell WR LSU
Dan Williams DT Ten
Jermaine Gresham TE OKA
Brandon Spikes LB FLA
Arrelious Benn WR ILL
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Thats my top 34 players. Colt McCoy(mid to late 2nd rd pick in my book) & Tim Tebow(mid 5th to 6th rd pick in my book) could be drafted in the first round because of the needs of 8 or 9 teams. That could be a real help for the 34th pick.
My top 6, I'm Hoping Seattle will want to trade up 6 & 14 would be nice
I heard Pete Carroll discuss the philosophy of the new Seahawks administration and John Schnieder and himself were deadset on building through the draft. Quantity of picks is huge for them and they were giddy about having two picks in the top 14. Honestly, these guys are more likely to trade down for more picks than they are to trade up to #2.
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Trent Williams is not that good, and might even end up being a guard. I think Iupati is better than he is. Brandon Spikes might not go in the first day, he lacks speed, and might be a two down guy.
If Graham/Best/Wilson are gone, I'd love to take Devin McCourty. I'd make him a full time corner, though, I wouldn't want to waste him on returns.
Overall, your list is pretty good.
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I don't care whether they go Suh/McCoy with the #2. I'm more interested in what they get in the 2nd round. Any chance Bulaga lasts that long? & Dexter McCluster in the 3rd?
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Who are the top 10 players that could reasonably be expected to be available at #34 (I know this is a wild-guessing game, but anyways...); and who would be a wish list fall to #34?
Pick 'em if they fall (but they most likely won't get to #34): Kyle Wilson, Iupati, Brandon Graham?
A more likely top 10 list for #34:
Greg Hardy
Brandon Spikes
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Patrick Robinson
Brandon Graham
Jonathon Dwyer
Everson Griffen
Perrish Cox
Jahvid Best
Devin McCourty
Daryl Washington
Kyle Wilson
Mardy Gilyard
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Patrick Robinson
Brandon Graham
Jonathon Dwyer
Everson Griffen
Perrish Cox
Jahvid Best
Devin McCourty
Daryl Washington
Kyle Wilson
Mardy Gilyard
I would add Corey Wootton, DE Northwestern as a player of high interest. Has great height and size.... combine will determine if he goes late in the first round or falls to the top of the second. His height will give him the added dimension of knocking passes down if he doesn't close on the sack...
I think the top three likely available players may well be Wootton, Graham or Best... Tough, tough decision if those three are there...
Warren in the first round? That would be a surprise. I think he could have been a first rounder if he stayed at Michigan for his senior year...but I think this year he'll be drafted late second.
No offense guys, I know he has a decent skill set..but what game in what season, what series of plays has Donovan Warren ever demonstrated NFL second round quality of play. Compared to Leon Hall he was a caddy.
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Michael Johnson, Maualuga and at this rate Everette Brown won't make it out of the first.
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Some guys that are top-15 "locks" are going to fall between now and April. If guys like Pierre-Paul, Wilson, Sean Weatherspoon, Mardy Gilyard, Rob Gronkowski, etc all make it into the first, someone has to drop too.
Some guys that are top-15 "locks" are going to fall between now and April. If guys like Pierre-Paul, Wilson, Sean Weatherspoon, Mardy Gilyard, Rob Gronkowski, etc all make it into the first, someone has to drop too.
This is true, however I think thats where underachievers or character issue players will fall. Players like Dunlap, with the emergance of Pierre-Paul especially, Taylor Mays, Terrence Cody to name a few. Graham and Price have great production and tape and Wilson is showing he can play with the best.
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This is true, however I think thats where underachievers or character issue players will fall. Players like Dunlap, with the emergance of Pierre-Paul especially, Taylor Mays, Terrence Cody to name a few. Graham and Price have great production and tape and Wilson is showing he can play with the best.
Dunlap won't fall that far. He'll probably still go in the top 10, unless he repeats his actions. Paul is a top 20, maybe 10. Mays is a question mark, he could fall, but I don't see too many teams allowing Cody to get by. He's the only guy who can do what he does in the draft. Price is like Shaun Cody to me. Good college player, but I have doubts on his pro ability.
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Dunlap won't fall that far. He'll probably still go in the top 10, unless he repeats his actions. Paul is a top 20, maybe 10. Mays is a question mark, he could fall, but I don't see too many teams allowing Cody to get by. He's the only guy who can do what he does in the draft. Price is like Shaun Cody to me. Good college player, but I have doubts on his pro ability.
I doubt either Pittsburgh or New England would pass on Cody. Especially since both Wilfork and Hampton are free agents. If Taylor Mays falls to the second round I don't care how bad in coverage he is, The lions would be fools to pass on him. It would be nice to see some noddle arms in the middle of the field against the leos for a change.
No offense guys, I know he has a decent skill set..but what game in what season, what series of plays has Donovan Warren ever demonstrated NFL second round quality of play. Compared to Leon Hall he was a caddy.
Warren was a 5* on both sites out of HS and started all 3 years at Michigan (he's only 20 years old). He's 6'0" 205~ and appears to me to be a very good tackler and always close to his guy in coverage. I think when scouts look at his film he'll grade out well and he'll have a good combine / pro day, running in the 4.45 range.
Warren was a 5* on both sites out of HS and started all 3 years at Michigan (he's only 20 years old). He's 6'0" 205~ and appears to me to be a very good tackler and always close to his guy in coverage. I think when scouts look at his film he'll grade out well and he'll have a good combine / pro day, running in the 4.45 range.
Warren needs to show scouts he can play in press coverage since Michigan lined their cornerbacks ten plus yards off the ball. He needed an all-star type practice week to prove he could do so. He shows good footwork but there is a major body of work missing in his film that will likely ding him into the late second early third round. The emergence of other cornerback prospects will also hurt his status.
Dunlap won't fall that far. He'll probably still go in the top 10, unless he repeats his actions. Paul is a top 20, maybe 10. Mays is a question mark, he could fall, but I don't see too many teams allowing Cody to get by. He's the only guy who can do what he does in the draft. Price is like Shaun Cody to me. Good college player, but I have doubts on his pro ability.
Price definately impresses me on film...what are your reasons for the doubts?
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Warren was a 5* on both sites out of HS and started all 3 years at Michigan (he's only 20 years old). He's 6'0" 205~ and appears to me to be a very good tackler and always close to his guy in coverage. I think when scouts look at his film he'll grade out well and he'll have a good combine / pro day, running in the 4.45 range.
Yo didn't answer the question. Hs game film isn't that impressive..Scouts don't care about 5* rankings, the care about how you covered receivers for 3 years, he was OK, never very good. The NFL requires a lot more production, than OK.
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I doubt either Pittsburgh or New England would pass on Cody. Especially since both Wilfork and Hampton are free agents. If Taylor Mays falls to the second round I don't care how bad in coverage he is, The lions would be fools to pass on him. It would be nice to see some noddle arms in the middle of the field against the leos for a change.
Cody is a riddole wrapped in an enigma, no discipline. Unless he gives them hope he will mature, he is a wasted pick waiting to happen. what good is talent if aren't in condition or don't work hard enough to learn technique.
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Cody is a riddole wrapped in an enigma, no discipline. Unless he gives them hope he will mature, he is a wasted pick waiting to happen. what good is talent if aren't in condition or don't work hard enough to learn technique.
Plenty of guys have made a living not being in the best shape. Pat Williams, Vince Wilfork, Shaun Rogers just to name a few. Cody even at 370 will give his new team a runner stuffer on first and second down. He shows that on film and if you are 3-4 team looking for a NT I don't care how out of shape he is, he's the best pure NT for a 3-4 in four plus years of the draft.
He played at that wieght at Alabama and earned All-American and SEC first team honors. He was a big reason why their Defense was no. 1 in the nation at stopping the run. You might not like him because of his perceived weight but he was absolutely dominant at stopping the run in his Alabama career at that weight. Fellow teammate Andre Smith got that label and was a key reason why the Bengals made that playoffs and Cedric frickin Benson was one of the leading rushers in the NFL.
Talent over Substance wins out every time.
A wasted Pick? I think he might be one of the safest picks in the draft. See the Career of 37 year Grady Jackson as evidence.
Fellow teammate Andre Smith got that label and was a key reason why the Bengals made that playoffs and Cedric frickin Benson was one of the leading rushers in the NFL.
Talent over Substance wins out every time.
A wasted Pick? I think he might be one of the safest picks in the draft. See the Career of 37 year Grady Jackson as evidence.
REALLY??? Tell me how he was a key reason when he was injured until week 10 and started only ONE game. Maybe if he was actually IN shape and condistioned himself better he wouldn't have gotten injured. And to add insult to injury, he's so outta shape and slow footed they were forced to play him at RT rather than LT.
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Plenty of guys have made a living not being in the best shape. Pat Williams, Vince Wilfork, Shaun Rogers just to name a few. Cody even at 370 will give his new team a runner stuffer on first and second down. He shows that on film and if you are 3-4 team looking for a NT I don't care how out of shape he is, he's the best pure NT for a 3-4 in four plus years of the draft.
He played at that wieght at Alabama and earned All-American and SEC first team honors. He was a big reason why their Defense was no. 1 in the nation at stopping the run. You might not like him because of his perceived weight but he was absolutely dominant at stopping the run in his Alabama career at that weight. Fellow teammate Andre Smith got that label and was a key reason why the Bengals made that playoffs and Cedric frickin Benson was one of the leading rushers in the NFL.
Talent over Substance wins out every time.
A wasted Pick? I think he might be one of the safest picks in the draft. See the Career of 37 year Grady Jackson as evidence.
Yet somehow, he was benched in the championship game for most of the second half..popularity contests don't really interst me. The side of the road is littered with fat guys who ate their way out of the league...Cody, is my candidate.
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Price definately impresses me on film...what are your reasons for the doubts?
I need more numbers on him (height, arm length, etc), but he's not big enough, not strong enough, and definitely not quick enough. I'm wondering why he's gotten as much hype as he has gotten already.
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I need more numbers on him (height, arm length, etc), but he's not big enough, not strong enough, and definitely not quick enough. I'm wondering why he's gotten as much hype as he has gotten already.
He performs...all the film I've seen on him backs up his 1st round grade.
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If Brandon Graham is there at #34 I think I'd take him. He's so fast I think he'd be a beast on the tire turf.
LOL - Fail!! (I feel the same way....)
...What I more realistically hope is the Lions WILL take either (their 2nd in a row?) the best available defensive or offensive lineman. That is, unless Spiller gets pushed down, # pick #34.
Cody is a riddole wrapped in an enigma, no discipline. Unless he gives them hope he will mature, he is a wasted pick waiting to happen. what good is talent if aren't in condition or don't work hard enough to learn technique.
Cody is an egg roll wrapped in bacon....but you could do much worse if you're looking for a two down DT...
Warren was a 5* on both sites out of HS and started all 3 years at Michigan (he's only 20 years old). He's 6'0" 205~ and appears to me to be a very good tackler and always close to his guy in coverage. I think when scouts look at his film he'll grade out well and he'll have a good combine / pro day, running in the 4.45 range.
Game tape superceeds your rivals ranking and your workout..it's not a fashion show, it's a football game..he never distinguished himself as anything more than a player who you always felt could have done more..essentially underachieved his reputed skill set..
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