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02-23-2009, 08:42 PM #1
My Mock Draft
My Two Round Mock Draft:
1. Detroit Lions – Matt Stafford QB Georgia
I firmly believe in Matt Stafford and I think his stock will only go up from here. He is receiving glowing reviews of his interview skills and he showed he had some speed with a 4.84 40 at the combine. The Lions need Mathew Stafford, this could be the best pick in franchise history.
2. St. Louis Rams – Aaron Curry LB Wake Forrest
Aaron Curry had an amazing combine and he is a player that can play any position asked of him. He has the size to play in the middle, he has the speed to play outside he has the cover ability to play nickel and he has the strength to play with his hand on the ground. Spagnola starting his team with Curry could be a perfect fit.
3. Kansas City Chiefs – Brian Cushing ILB USC
Brian Cushing’s stock has been going only up since the Rose Bowl and I think he could find himself in the top 3. KC wants Aaron Curry but they still need help at linebacker regardless. I think Cushing and Johnson could make for a great linebacker tandem.
4. Seattle Seahawks – Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
Michael Crabtree had a horrible combine but I don’t think he falls past Seattle still. He should perform adequately on his pro day and he has the most impressive film of any player in this draft. He is a lock here.
5. Cleveland Browns – Brian Orakpo OLB Texas
Brian Orakpo is a workout warrior and he could be exactly what Mangini thought Vernon Gholston was last year. He is a true pass rusher who should be a great replacement for either Andre Davis or Willie McGinest.
6. Cincinnati Bengals – Jason Smith OT Baylor
Jason Smith has cemented his spot as the best tackle in the draft and Cincinnati will be counting their blessings if he falls to this spot. This fills Cincinnati’s most crucial with this pick.
7. Oakland Raiders – Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
Al Davis loves speed and so that means this year he loves Darrius Heyward-Bey. He is taller and faster than Maclin and Al Davis would love to see McFadden throwing long to DHB.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars – Eugene Monroe OT
Jacksonville’s offensive line woes last year destroyed their chances to be a contender last year. Eugene Monroe is a fantastic tackle prospect and he will start for the Jaguars on Day 1.
9. Green Bay Packers – Everette Brown OLB Florida State
Everette Brown played defensive line in college, but is being seen as a 3-4 OLB. Green Bay needs players to fit their change to the system and Brown fits that profile.
10. San Francisco 49ers – Larry English OLB Northern Illinois
Larry English has soared up draft boards and continues to impress. He looked fantastic at the combine and Michael Singletary will have a great partner to Patrick Willis.
11. Buffalo Bills – Tyson Jackson DE LSU
The Bills had no pressure on the passer last year, Tyson Jackson is a big physical defensive end that should help them fix that problem.
12. Denver Broncos – B.J. Raji NT Boston College
B.J. Raji is arguably one of the top two defensive prospects in the draft and he would be a Godsend to Denver. He has the ability to dominate and would serve as a perfect nose guard in Nolan’s 34 defense.
13. Washington Redskins – Andre Smith OT Alabama
Andre Smith could have been the number one pick in the draft, but falling to Washington could be the best for both parties. Andre could start as a right tackle in 2009 and though I question his ability to play on the left side he should be a very good right tackle or guard with the skills demonstrated at Alabama.
14. New Orleans Saints – Malcom Jenkins CB Ohio State
The Saints have needs at both Safety and Cornerback so Malcom Jenkins is a perfect fit here. People are split on which position he should be, but either way he should improve New Orleans’s poor secondary.
15. Houston Texans – Robert Ayers DE/OLB Tennessee
Robert Ayers is another late bloomer. He only had one great year at Tennessee, but he has performed well at the Senior Bowl and the combine. He could give Mario Williams a pass rush presence on the other side.
16. San Diego Chargers – Chris “Beanie” Wells RB Ohio State
Since LT’s days seem to be numbered in San Diego, Beanie Wells could prove to be a great thunder and lightning combo with Darren Sproles.
17. New York Jets – Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
Thomas Jones is turning 30 and New York is going to need a running attack with the passing attack suffering from the loss of Brett Favre. Knowshon could be an NFL star and his personality would make him beloved by the New York media.
18. Chicago Bears – Kenny Britt WR Rutgers
Kenny Britt is a good looking prospect at 6’4 with great speed he has been climbing up draft boards. He should give Chicago a legitimate weapon to play opposite Devin Hester.
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Mark Sanchez QB USC
This could be an ideal situation for Mark Sanchez who has great tools, but I feel will struggle if played too early. It seems that Luke McCown has worked his way to starting QB for 2009, but I don’t think anyone expects him to be the future of the franchise.
20. Detroit Lions –Aaron Maybin OLB Penn State
I expect Detroit to pick up a MLB in the free agency, and Ernie Sims is a great linebacker and this pick should finish the job. I think Detroit can address cornerback late in the draft and Max Unger should still be available come pick 33.
21. Philadelphia Eagles – Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State
Pettigrew is a great tight end prospect that can both block and catch. Pettigrew will help support an aging offensive line and fills a need with the departure of LJ Smith.
22. Minnesota Vikings – Vontae Davis CB Illinois
With Minnesota trading for Sage Rosenfils I don’t think Minnesota will take a huge gamble on Josh Freeman. Minnesota needs help in the aging defensive backfield and Vontae Davis can provide it.
23. New England Patriots – Clay Mathews LB USC
Clay Mathews is a solid football player from a great family. He can play any position the Patriots ask of him and he fits the profile of a Patriots linebacker.
24. Atlanta Falcons – D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
D.J. Moore was absolutely amazing as both a cornerback and a kick returner and the Falcons need help at both. They would love Brandon Pettigrew here.
25. Miami Dolphins - James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State
James Laurinatitis isn’t the sexiest prospect in the draft, but the guy is a football player and I could see Parcells falling in love with him.
26. Baltimore Ravens - Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forrest
Baltimore’s weakness in their D was the long passing game and Alphonso Smith is a good step towards repairing that. The guy doesn’t have the best measurable but no CB has performed better in college.
27. Indianapolis Colts – Percy Harvin WR Florida
Harrison is gone and the Colts have the ability to simply reload. Harvin could provide lethal speed and should add an exciting new spark to Peyton’s offense. The Colts have a real need at DT, but I don’t think any prospect warrants this pick.
28. Philadelphia Eagles - Michael Oher OT Mississippi
Some once had Michael Oher as the top tackle in the draft, he has now fallen to the late first round. Philadelphia’s offensive tackles both have more than 10 years of experience and its time to build towards the future.
29. New York Giants - Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
Brian Robiskie gave one of the most impressive combine performances and has pushed his way into the first round. This is New York’s number one need, even if Plaxico escapes jail time.
30. Tennessee Titans – Jarron Gilbert DT San Jose State
Jarron Gilbert has become a youtube sensation and is a physical freak. His measurables are ridiculous for a defensive tackle and he could be asked to fill Albert Haynesworth’s rather large shoes.
31. Arizona Cardinals – Donald Brown RB Connecticut
Donald Brown had a better combine performance than either of the two RB’s I have in front of him and he should provide a good alternative to Tim Hightower.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers – William Beatty OT Conneticut
Marvel Smith has yet to be signed and William Beatty is the best tackle available.
Round 2.
1. Detroit Lions – Max Unger C Oregon
Max Unger could be the best offensive line prospect for the Lions in this draft. He can play center, guard or right tackle and he will start day one.
2. St. Louis Rams - Eben Britton OT Arizona
Many expect St. Louis to pick a tackle in the first round, so its obvious the need is there. Eben Britton has risen since the end of the season.
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Paul Kruger DE Utah
That Kansas City defense needs a lot of help and Paul Kruger could provide a great spark.
4. Cleveland Browns - Coye Francies CB San Jose State
Coye Francies came from a small school but has seen his stock risen thanks to a fantastic Senior Bowl practice.
5. Seattle Seahawks – Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
Seattle needs help on both lines, but there isn’t a tackle here worth the pick.
6. Cincinnati Bengals – C Alex Mack
Alex Mack coupled with Jason Smith is a great way to build a long lasting offensive line.
7. Jacksonville Jaguars – Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
Jacksonville has made some head scratching moves trying to solve the wide receiver position, lets hope they can fill it here.
8. Oakland Raiders – Sean Smith CB Utah
Sean Smith is a very interesting CB prospect at 6’4.
9. Green Bay Packers -- Darius Butler CB Connecticut
Their defensive backfield is aging.
10. Buffalo Bills – Jared Cook TE South Carolina
Jared Cook is a physical freak and could be a real sexy receiving option for Trent Edwards.
11. San Francisco 49ers – Josh Freeman QB Kansas State
Josh Freeman is arguably a first round talent, San Francisco can’t rely on Shaun Hill or Alex Smith being the QB of the future.
12. Miami Dolphins – Louis Delmas S Western Michigan
Thanks to William Moore’s poor performance at the Senior Bowl Louis Delmas becomes the top prospect.
13. New Orleans Saints -- Rey Maualuga OLB USC
He had a poor combine and some question his speed so he may fall out of the first round.
14. New York Giants -- Tyrone McKenzie OLB USF
He’s a big, strong OLB prospect that New York needs.
15. Houston Texans -- Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
Michael Johnson is a statistical beast with all the talent in the world, but was an inconsistent performer. If Mario Williams can help him fulfill his potential he could provide a scary alternative.
16. New England Patriots -- Rashad Johnson S Alabama
Rodney Harrison is on the NFL Network.
17. Denver Broncos -- Marcus Freeman LB Ohio State
Denver needs linebackers and Marcus Freeman has high upside.
18. Chicago Bears -- Andy Levitre OG Oregon State
The best guard in the draft in a weak year for the position.
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati
Kevin Carter is getting old and they need to look for a replacement.
20. Dallas Cowboys William Moore S Missouri
Was once the top safety in the draft, but he should be able to replace Roy Williams.
21. Philadelphia Eagles LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
Philadelphia needs a between the tackles runner, LeSean McCoy could be that back.
22. New York Jets –Jairus Byrd CB Oregon
The Jet’s secondary is pathetic and they need help at the position.
23. Minnesota Vikings -- Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina
Jamon Meredith has all the physical tools but got benched in college. He has huge potential but has bust written all over him.
24. Atlanta Falcons -- Shawn Nelson TE Southern Mississippi
I was more impressed with Nelson than any other receiver at the combine.
25. Miami Dolphins -- Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma
Miami needs more fire power at wide receiver.
26. Baltimore Ravens -- Cornelius Ingram TE Florida
Ingram was hurt last year but looked solid at the combine. Baltimore needs to make up for Todd Heap’s slowing in production.
27. New England Patriots – Herman Johnson OG/OT LSU
A huge prospect that can play either guard or tackle.
28. Carolina Panthers -- Nate Davis QB Carolina
The NFC Championship game made it obvious Carolina needs to prepare for a day without Jake Delhomme.
29. New York Giants Evander Hood DT Missouri
Evander Hood was one of the strongest defensive lineman in the draft.
30. Indianapolis Colts – Ron Bryce DT Boston College
He played behind Raji, but he is a talented player that the Colts desperately need.
31. Tennessee Titans – Pat White QB West Virginia
Pat White looked great the combine and offers a lot of possibility in Tennessee. The Titans need another receiver, help at punt return and with Vince Young being Vince Young he may have a shot at playing Quarterback.
32. Arizona Cardinals -- Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
This would be a high value pick here.
Pittsburgh Steelers -- Jonathan Luigs C Louisville
An athletic center prospect that can help keep Big Ben upright.
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02-23-2009, 09:28 PM #2
Nice job! Don't agree with all of them, but that is to be expected!
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02-23-2009, 09:34 PM #3
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Looks good....now I wanna see 3-7.
Adopt-a-Tiger: 08' Lucas French, 09' Andrew Oliver 1-0 vs NCAA, 10' Daniel Fields
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02-23-2009, 09:37 PM #4
Has Jeremy Maclin really fallen out of the first two rounds?
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02-23-2009, 09:46 PM #5
2012 Adopt-A-Tiger - Ryan Strieby
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02-23-2009, 10:09 PM #6
I give you an A for the effort. A full 2 round mock with analysis is a hard thing to do even if I disagree with many of your selections.
I honestly would throw a rock at my TV if the Lions took a Center at the top of the 2nd round with so many quality playmakers still on the board. Taking Unger over Maclin, Jerry, Nicks, and yes even Maualuga would be reaching for need rather taking the best available player. Eric Wood, Antoine Caldwell, and AQ Shipley are available later and round out a center class with nice depth.VT
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02-23-2009, 10:16 PM #7
Can't believe I overlooked Maclin.
1. Detroit Lions – Matt Stafford QB Georgia
I firmly believe in Matt Stafford and I think his stock will only go up from here. He is receiving glowing reviews of his interview skills and he showed he had some speed with a 4.84 40 at the combine. The Lions need Mathew Stafford, this could be the best pick in franchise history.
2. St. Louis Rams – Aaron Curry LB Wake Forrest
Aaron Curry had an amazing combine and he is a player that can play any position asked of him. He has the size to play in the middle, he has the speed to play outside he has the cover ability to play nickel and he has the strength to play with his hand on the ground. Spagnola starting his team with Curry could be a perfect fit.
3. Kansas City Chiefs – Brian Cushing ILB USC
Brian Cushing’s stock has been going only up since the Rose Bowl and I think he could find himself in the top 3. KC wants Aaron Curry but they still need help at linebacker regardless. I think Cushing and Johnson could make for a great linebacker tandem.
4. Seattle Seahawks – Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
Michael Crabtree had a horrible combine but I don’t think he falls past Seattle still. He should perform adequately on his pro day and he has the most impressive film of any player in this draft. He is a lock here.
5. Cleveland Browns – Brian Orakpo OLB Texas
Brian Orakpo is a workout warrior and he could be exactly what Mangini thought Vernon Gholston was last year. He is a true pass rusher who should be a great replacement for either Andre Davis or Willie McGinest.
6. Cincinnati Bengals – Jason Smith OT Baylor
Jason Smith has cemented his spot as the best tackle in the draft and Cincinnati will be counting their blessings if he falls to this spot. This fills Cincinnati’s most crucial with this pick.
7. Oakland Raiders – Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
Al Davis loves speed and so that means this year he loves Darrius Heyward-Bey. He is taller and faster than Maclin and Al Davis would love to see McFadden throwing long to DHB.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars – Eugene Monroe OT
Jacksonville’s offensive line woes last year destroyed their chances to be a contender last year. Eugene Monroe is a fantastic tackle prospect and he will start for the Jaguars on Day 1.
9. Green Bay Packers – Everette Brown OLB Florida State
Everette Brown played defensive line in college, but is being seen as a 3-4 OLB. Green Bay needs players to fit their change to the system and Brown fits that profile.
10. San Francisco 49ers – Larry English OLB Northern Illinois
Larry English has soared up draft boards and continues to impress. He looked fantastic at the combine and Michael Singletary will have a great partner to Patrick Willis.
11. Buffalo Bills – Tyson Jackson DE LSU
The Bills had no pressure on the passer last year, Tyson Jackson is a big physical defensive end that should help them fix that problem.
12. Denver Broncos – B.J. Raji NT Boston College
B.J. Raji is arguably one of the top two defensive prospects in the draft and he would be a Godsend to Denver. He has the ability to dominate and would serve as a perfect nose guard in Nolan’s 34 defense.
13. Washington Redskins – Andre Smith OT Alabama
Andre Smith could have been the number one pick in the draft, but falling to Washington could be the best for both parties. Andre could start as a right tackle in 2009 and though I question his ability to play on the left side he should be a very good right tackle or guard with the skills demonstrated at Alabama.
14. New Orleans Saints – Malcom Jenkins CB Ohio State
The Saints have needs at both Safety and Cornerback so Malcom Jenkins is a perfect fit here. People are split on which position he should be, but either way he should improve New Orleans’s poor secondary.
15. Houston Texans – Robert Ayers DE/OLB Tennessee
Robert Ayers is another late bloomer. He only had one great year at Tennessee, but he has performed well at the Senior Bowl and the combine. He could give Mario Williams a pass rush presence on the other side.
16. San Diego Chargers – Chris “Beanie” Wells RB Ohio State
Since LT’s days seem to be numbered in San Diego, Beanie Wells could prove to be a great thunder and lightning combo with Darren Sproles.
17. New York Jets – Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
Thomas Jones is turning 30 and New York is going to need a running attack with the passing attack suffering from the loss of Brett Favre. Knowshon could be an NFL star and his personality would make him beloved by the New York media.
18. Chicago Bears – Kenny Britt WR Rutgers
Kenny Britt is a good looking prospect at 6’4 with great speed he has been climbing up draft boards. He should give Chicago a legitimate weapon to play opposite Devin Hester.
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Mark Sanchez QB USC
This could be an ideal situation for Mark Sanchez who has great tools, but I feel will struggle if played too early. It seems that Luke McCown has worked his way to starting QB for 2009, but I don’t think anyone expects him to be the future of the franchise.
20. Detroit Lions –Aaron Maybin OLB Penn State
I expect Detroit to pick up a MLB in the free agency, and Ernie Sims is a great linebacker and this pick should finish the job. I think Detroit can address cornerback late in the draft and Max Unger should still be available come pick 33.
21. Philadelphia Eagles – Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State
Pettigrew is a great tight end prospect that can both block and catch. Pettigrew will help support an aging offensive line and fills a need with the departure of LJ Smith.
22. Minnesota Vikings – Vontae Davis CB Illinois
With Minnesota trading for Sage Rosenfils I don’t think Minnesota will take a huge gamble on Josh Freeman. Minnesota needs help in the aging defensive backfield and Vontae Davis can provide it.
23. New England Patriots – Clay Mathews LB USC
Clay Mathews is a solid football player from a great family. He can play any position the Patriots ask of him and he fits the profile of a Patriots linebacker.
24. Atlanta Falcons – D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
D.J. Moore was absolutely amazing as both a cornerback and a kick returner and the Falcons need help at both. They would love Brandon Pettigrew here.
25. Miami Dolphins - James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State
James Laurinatitis isn’t the sexiest prospect in the draft, but the guy is a football player and I could see Parcells falling in love with him.
26. Baltimore Ravens - Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forrest
Baltimore’s weakness in their D was the long passing game and Alphonso Smith is a good step towards repairing that. The guy doesn’t have the best measurable but no CB has performed better in college.
27. Indianapolis Colts – WR Jeremy Maclin
Harrison is gone and the Colts have the ability to simply reload. Harvin could provide lethal speed and should add an exciting new spark to Peyton’s offense. The Colts have a real need at DT, but I don’t think any prospect warrants this pick.
28. Philadelphia Eagles - Michael Oher OT Mississippi
Some once had Michael Oher as the top tackle in the draft, he has now fallen to the late first round. Philadelphia’s offensive tackles both have more than 10 years of experience and its time to build towards the future.
29. New York Giants - Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
Brian Robiskie gave one of the most impressive combine performances and has pushed his way into the first round. This is New York’s number one need, even if Plaxico escapes jail time.
30. Tennessee Titans – Jarron Gilbert DT San Jose State
Jarron Gilbert has become a youtube sensation and is a physical freak. His measurables are ridiculous for a defensive tackle and he could be asked to fill Albert Haynesworth’s rather large shoes.
31. Arizona Cardinals – Donald Brown RB Connecticut
Donald Brown had a better combine performance than either of the two RB’s I have in front of him and he should provide a good alternative to Tim Hightower.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers – William Beatty OT Conneticut
Marvel Smith has yet to be signed and William Beatty is the best tackle available.
Round 2.
1. Detroit Lions – Max Unger C Oregon
Max Unger could be the best offensive line prospect for the Lions in this draft. He can play center, guard or right tackle and he will start day one.
2. St. Louis Rams - Eben Britton OT Arizona
Many expect St. Louis to pick a tackle in the first round, so its obvious the need is there. Eben Britton has risen since the end of the season.
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Paul Kruger DE Utah
That Kansas City defense needs a lot of help and Paul Kruger could provide a great spark.
4. Cleveland Browns - Coye Francies CB San Jose State
Coye Francies came from a small school but has seen his stock risen thanks to a fantastic Senior Bowl practice.
5. Seattle Seahawks – Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
Seattle needs help on both lines, but there isn’t a tackle here worth the pick.
6. Cincinnati Bengals – C Alex Mack
Alex Mack coupled with Jason Smith is a great way to build a long lasting offensive line.
7. Jacksonville Jaguars – Percy Harvin WR Florida
Jacksonville has been trying to find a legit receiving threat for a long time, if Harvin falls to him here they could finally fix that problem.
8. Oakland Raiders – Sean Smith CB Utah
Sean Smith is a very interesting CB prospect at 6’4.
9. Green Bay Packers -- Darius Butler CB Connecticut
Their defensive backfield is aging.
10. Buffalo Bills – Jared Cook TE South Carolina
Jared Cook is a physical freak and could be a real sexy receiving option for Trent Edwards.
11. San Francisco 49ers – Josh Freeman QB Kansas State
Josh Freeman is arguably a first round talent, San Francisco can’t rely on Shaun Hill or Alex Smith being the QB of the future.
12. Miami Dolphins – Louis Delmas S Western Michigan
Thanks to William Moore’s poor performance at the Senior Bowl Louis Delmas becomes the top prospect.
13. New York Giants -- Rey Maualuga OLB USC
He had a poor combine and some question his speed so he may fall out of the first round.
14. Houston Texans -- Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
Michael Johnson is a statistical beast with all the talent in the world, but was an inconsistent performer. If Mario Williams can help him fulfill his potential he could provide a scary alternative.
15. New England Patriots -- Rashad Johnson S Alabama
Rodney Harrison is on the NFL Network.
16. Denver Broncos -- Marcus Freeman LB Ohio State
Denver needs linebackers and Marcus Freeman has high upside.
17. Chicago Bears -- Andy Levitre OG Oregon State
The best guard in the draft in a weak year for the position.
18. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati
Kevin Carter is getting old and they need to look for a replacement.
19. Dallas Cowboys William Moore S Missouri
Was once the top safety in the draft, but he should be able to replace Roy Williams.
20. Philadelphia Eagles LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
Philadelphia needs a between the tackles runner, LeSean McCoy could be that back.
21. New York Jets –Jairus Byrd CB Oregon
The Jet’s secondary is pathetic and they need help at the position.
22. Minnesota Vikings -- Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina
Jamon Meredith has all the physical tools but got benched in college. He has huge potential but has bust written all over him.
23. Atlanta Falcons -- Shawn Nelson TE Southern Mississippi
I was more impressed with Nelson than any other receiver at the combine.
24. Miami Dolphins --Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
Miami needs an offensive weapon and Hakeem Nicks is a steal here.
25. Baltimore Ravens -- Cornelius Ingram TE Florida
Ingram was hurt last year but looked solid at the combine. Baltimore needs to make up for Todd Heap’s slowing in production.
26. New England Patriots – Herman Johnson OG/OT LSU
A huge prospect that can play either guard or tackle.
27. Carolina Panthers -- Nate Davis QB Carolina
The NFC Championship game made it obvious Carolina needs to prepare for a day without Jake Delhomme.
28. New York Giants Evander Hood DT Missouri
Evander Hood was one of the strongest defensive lineman in the draft.
29. Indianapolis Colts – Ron Bryce DT Boston College
He played behind Raji, but he is a talented player that the Colts desperately need.
30. Tennessee Titans – Pat White QB West Virginia
Pat White looked great the combine and offers a lot of possibility in Tennessee. The Titans need another receiver, help at punt return and with Vince Young being Vince Young he may have a shot at playing Quarterback.
31. Arizona Cardinals -- Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
This would be a high value pick here.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Jonathan Luigs C Louisville
An athletic center prospect that can help keep Big Ben upright.
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02-23-2009, 10:22 PM #8
I hope you're wrong.....they need to take ALL DEFENSE in the first 3 rounds....5 guys that can step in and play from day 1.
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02-23-2009, 10:28 PM #9
I disagree.
I think the Lions can find two starting CB's in the late rounds, I would target Asher Allen and Joe Burnett in the third and fourth. I think the Lions can sign a MLB in the free agency draft a another outside backer and then build your offense. With tools like Calvin Johnson and Kevin Smith I think you have to build around that - adding a franchise QB and building the Oline is key.
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02-23-2009, 10:39 PM #10
Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz
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02-23-2009, 10:51 PM #11
I disagree with a lot of those picks...but I'll stay with the picks you have for the lions. Stafford is a good pick, worthy of the #1 and no argument from me.
I however can't see us taking an OLB that is virtually the same size and make-up of a guy we all ready have on our roster (Avril) when there are so many bigger needs. SSLB is probably the least important player on the D and we are 2 CBs away from having 2 starting NFL caliber corners. With Davis, Moore, and Smith on your board still, one of them should be the choice.
Unger is a solid prospect, but if you have Maualuga still on the board and we don't take him at 2-1 that's crazy...even if we did sign a MLB in free agency like you suggested, he could still kick outside. Plus we have a need at DT and Jerry, Hood, or Brace would be a solid choice.Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz
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I can't see the niners passing over Mark Sanchez for English. I also can't see Maualuga and Mack both dropping down that far.
Maualuga has good enough film and potential to negate his subpar combine- which may have been due to injury.
If Maclin and Harvin drop that far the Lions almost HAVE to consider taking one of them at 20. Good thing it probly won't happen.
I doubt Chris Wells goes before Moreno.
I will be disappointed if Orakpo goes that high but it maybe could happen after the combine that he had.
I can't see that many LBs being taken in the first.
Donald Brown over LeSean McCoy? Really?
I can't see Michael Johnson dropping that far. If there's one thing NFL scouts love, its potential.
Well those are the more major things I noticed.Last edited by DetroitFan; 02-23-2009 at 11:58 PM.
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02-24-2009, 12:12 AM #13
Main problems I have with the first round:
Cushing, Heyward-Bey, English, Ayers, and Gilbert are all way too high IMO.09-10 AAW: Dan Cleary
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02-24-2009, 12:24 AM #14
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02-24-2009, 08:09 AM #15
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Cushing isn't a ILB. He isn't even projected as such from what I've seen. I don't agree with most the picks, but honestly trying to do a mock is something I'd never care to try as there is just too much that I don't know about many of the teams.
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02-24-2009, 08:22 AM #17
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Hawk is the OLB for the Packers. I just checked NFL.com to verify that. I just hadn't heard anything about Cushing moving to ILB. That is why I stated that. I've heard about Curry moving.
I like Cushing the most out of the USC linebackers so I'm not going to say anything bad. Heck, when I saw some of the first mocks that had us getting him with our second round pick, I was elated.
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They're moving him inside, to the mike.
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/.../90222025/1058Last edited by cruzer1; 02-24-2009 at 08:28 AM.
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02-24-2009, 08:30 AM #19
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Just my 2 cents which isn't worth much, but I want the Lions to take Jason Smith or Curry with the first pick. I know taking Curry is a slight overdraft but I think he is a beast and will help the defense drastically.
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This is where the love'em or hate'em comes in. Is he worth the risk or not? He has a lot of upside, but with our team needs so much, is he worth the risk? We are in as bad of shape (if not worse) at LB than at QB. At least we have a one time guy who had 3 very good years and he now has similar offensive tools that he had in Minnesota. Simms is an OK LB, but nothing to write home about. Other than that, we have zip. To me there is far less risk of Eugene Monroe, Aaron Curry, or Jason Smith busting than Stafford. The millions we give them would be safer and would go further to making us a solid team for years to come.
When we're closer to having a complete team, we can get that QB we need. With a good team around them, even rookie QB's can do well as they've proven in recent years (Ryan, Flacco, Roethlisberger). That is my feelings on it. He's just not worth the risk when we need so much. If he ends up being an elite QB with someone else, oops, we missed. There is no saying he would have been that with out team.
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He's not much of a risk to me. It would be riskier to not take him. He's that good.
Ask Minnesota how easy it is to find a QB when they have the rest of their team put together well. They'll never get over the hump without a QB.
The Lions won't fix everything in this draft, but they can make a huge dent.
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02-24-2009, 09:17 AM #23
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02-24-2009, 10:10 AM #24
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02-24-2009, 10:21 AM #25
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Did I mention anywhere that we're a complete team or teams in the past have been that draft in the top 5? Very few teams in history, if ever, have had such a complete lack of talent as the Lions have. I think the expansion year Bucs are about the only team that is there with us on lack of talent. We need someone at every position. I do mean every.
Why does a QB have to be taken in the first part of the draft to be considered a franchise QB? Experts miss all the time. People who subscribe to arm strength not being the end all be all and accuracy being the most important factor can see that. Arm strength and lack of experience are why Brady was drafted so low. Brady completed 63% of his passes and had a 4:1 TD/INT ratio. He also won the big games. You can find gems later in the draft, you just need to not always subscribe to the flashy pick.
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02-24-2009, 10:54 AM #27
AAL: Matthew Stafford | AAW: Nicklas Lidström | AAT: Jesus Ustariz
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02-24-2009, 11:02 AM #28
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02-24-2009, 01:18 PM #30
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What is wrong with taking a QB first and then using your other picks and free agency to build your team into something closer to a complete team? Based on probability a QB chosen higher has a better chance of succeeding compared to a later round QB. I know you will have anomalies, but the Lions have two first round picks so this year is a good year to take a chance on what could be a franchise QB.
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Here's what I posted in another thread that you decided not to reply to...
Cruzer, if this was 15 years ago, I'd agree with you.But the game has evolved- its not about how well you can throw the ball.
In fact that's only a very small part of it.
Its about quick release; quick, good decisions; audibles; reading defenses; mantal toughness; leadership; and grit.
If it was up to who had the best arm, the top 5 QBs would probably be
Jamarcus Russell
Kyle Boller
Joe Flacco
Tarvaris Jackson
Jay Cutler
The game has evolved. Its made it tougher to evaluate talent at the QB position.
Yes, he has the physical tools, but that's only about 40% of it IMO.
Most of the better qbs don't have exceptional arms, and most of the ones that do don't rely on arm strength to win.
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02-24-2009, 02:04 PM #33
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Again, that goes back to my previous post where you have to go by risk reward? Is it worth the overall #1 pick to risk on a QB that has at least a 50/50 chance of being a bust whereas you can draft an OT or LB who has less of a chance of being a bust? It almost goes without saying that Curry has almost no chance of being a bust. Very few linebackers in quite awhile have put up his numbers and had his measurables. The move from college LB to pro LB isn't as hard as college QB to pro QB. Spend the #20 pick or a pick another year on a QB. To me with so many holes, I just cannot see spending so much money on a risk AND for a guy that most likely would have to sit his first year and eat up $8+ million to hold a clipboard. To me, being a finance guy, that makes no sense whatsoever.
I also don't think there is any real correlation to a higher draft pick translating into a better QB. For every 1st round starter, I've guessing there are 3-4 back ups and benchwarmers.
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See, this is the part I don't like about Stafford and it makes me really scared about him as a pro.
I've heard he goes through his progressions well. He's good at knowing the plays (chalkboard). He has a cannon for an arm. If he is so smart, why does he throw the ball so hard over the middle on crossing routes? Why does he consistently throw into double coverage? Why does so many of his throws involving the WR having the jump to catch the ball? All of those traits to me translate into INT's in the pros.
Until he learns to not try make the big play and let the play evolve on its own, I think he's just going to be a guy that will always throw about as many INT's as TD's in the pros like a QB we're about to cut, Kitna.
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How do you figure 50% chance? When you factor in a players better skills and abilities compared to others, doesn't the chance go above 50% that he will be a success? How do you figure an OT or LB having less of a chance of being a bust? You can look at any year and point out successes and busts at any position.
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02-24-2009, 02:37 PM #36
QB is without a doubt the riskiest pick. There is only one quarterback on the field and two more that are strictly backups. If you bust as a QB, it's a total waste for a team. If you bust as a LT, there is a chance of moving to RT or OG. The same goes for the other positions you would draft with the number one pick. Hell, most of the positions have multiple spots to. Say you draft a WR and he's a slight bust. There is a good chance he's still good enough to be a #2 or slot reciever and you can still get something out of him. There isn't anything you can do with a backup quarterback than help the starter and train up the 3rd stringer.
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02-24-2009, 03:38 PM #37
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I know its steep but what about offering up to get Cassel. Give up #20 and next years first round. Then we don't have to risk picking up Stafford this year and we can draft Curry and still get a great addition with pick #33. And we wouldn't have to risk drafting an unknown next year on a QB. Cassel is 27 or 28 with a lot of mileage left and proved he could get it done. No risk and get what we truly need...a franchise QB. Not sure if the price is to steep but still worth an argument.
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Giving Stafford a 50/50 chance of not being a bust was favorable IMO. Look at underclassman QB's. Almost all of them fail in the NFL. Look at David Greene. Who is he? He's just the QB that was there at Georgia before Stafford and put up better numbers than him with less talented skill players around him. No, I no hard numbers to back any of this up, but look a history and underclassmen who are drafted who throw under 60% completion percentage in college and have throw as few of balls as him also. His TD/INT ratio also sucks over his college. The odds aren't in his favor. You have a statistician put it together and I'd feel comfortable that a 50/50 chance of being a bust is being nice.
As far as offensive tackles, Smith and Monroe have almost no question marks. They've been considered solid picks and Smith's stock has only gone up recently even more. A 1st round pick from last year couldn't beat Monroe out for his LT position.
For LB, you'd have to be completely stupid to think that moving from college MLB to pro MLB isn't easier than college QB to pro QB. I hate QB's as much as the next defensive minded person, but QB is the most complicated/high pressure position in football.
Curry has a skill set and physical tools that not a lot of linebackers have. The only thing Stafford has that not a lot of other QB's have is his arm. If arm strength was the most important tool in a QB, I would be more on Stafford's side.
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We don't have to give up two firsts for him since he signed the tender with the Pats. It's up to the Pats now what they get for him, if they even want to trade him. Try could trade him for a 7th round pick if they'd like. The team that gets him would have to pay the $14MM 1 year contract unless they redid the contract (which they most likely would).
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