Class of 2010 Recruiting Thread

[monkeynuts]

Originally Posted by whoknew

Maybe he just doesn't want to get stabbed or thrown in jail. Seems reasonable.

You have some major issues. I don't think I've ever seen somebody who comes across as bitter and angry as you.

[Scottwood]

Originally Posted by whoknew

Maybe he just doesn't want to get stabbed or thrown in jail. Seems reasonable.

I went to U of M so I don't really like MSU, but I do respect the school and the town. I had a lot of good nights down there when I partied with my buddies. There is absolutely nothing wrong with EL or MSU and I gave a cousin of mine a stamp of approval when she told me she wanted to go there. That comment is just uncalled for.

[monkeynuts]

Originally Posted by Scottwood

I went to U of M so I don't really like MSU, but I do respect the school and the town. I had a lot of good nights down there when I partied with my buddies. There is absolutely nothing wrong with EL or MSU and I gave a cousin of mine a stamp of approval when she told me she wanted to go there. That comment is just uncalled for.

Thank you. On a similar note, Ann Arbor is arguably my favorite city in Michigan and I have no shame in saying that (I also LOVE Yost). UM will also be the first school I'd look at to get an MBA if I decide to pursue one (if I would be fortunate enough to get in).

In general, the UM/MSU fans here do bicker, but also respect each other and we have a pretty good dialogue that goes back and forth. "Whoknew" is just at a whole different level where whenever I see him post it is literally venom. He provides absolutely no value to this message board.

[Johnny Mac]

Originally Posted by monkeynuts

Thank you. On a similar note, Ann Arbor is arguably my favorite city in Michigan and I have no shame in saying that (I also LOVE Yost). UM will also be the first school I'd look at to get an MBA if I decide to pursue one (if I would be fortunate enough to get in).

In general, the UM/MSU fans here do bicker, but also respect each other and we have a pretty good dialogue that goes back and forth. "Whoknew" is just at a whole different level where whenever I see him post it is literally venom. He provides absolutely no value to this message board.

I agree, I think most here think I hate MSU, probably moreso before than recently, but I am seriously considering going there for law school next year. My best friend also goes there and I have been there a couple times when I have been back in Michigan. Ive had a lot of fun at State, I would not want to go there for undergrad, one of reasons I went OOS, but for a grad school I would not hesitate to apply there or go there.

[lionstigersand...]

Originally Posted by whoknew

Maybe he just doesn't want to get stabbed or thrown in jail. Seems reasonable.

Originally Posted by monkeynuts

You have some major issues. I don't think I've ever seen somebody who comes across as bitter and angry as you.

I actually thought it was pretty funny. If you could have worked Glen Winston in there somewhere I would have given you double points!

[Buddha]

Originally Posted by lionstigersand...

Give me a break is right!!! Prosecutors routinely charge people with multiple AND more harsh crimes and then etc...

Look , in addition to knowing one of the primary witnesses in the matter, I also know someone in the Ingham Co. DA's office. That's where my "insider knowledge" is coming from in this case. Needless to say, it wasn't solely Winston's punch that directly caused Sturges' brain injury...

With all due respect, I haven't went out of my way to defend Dantonio or Winston in this matter. I thought Dantonio was right to allow Winston back in the program, categorically wrong to allow him back in uniform so soon.

I'm still not convinced that you read the Freep very often...Of course at this point I'm not sure you are either.

Originally Posted by ME

Come on now, give me a break. Prosecutors routinely charge people with multiple crimes and then allow the criminal to plead to a lesser charge. Or, they hold open the possibility of increasing the level of charges to get the criminal to plead to lesser charges

You forgot to bold that last part too. You know they hold the threat of increasing the charges over defendants all the time.

The point of the matter is that he very well could have been charged with the crime mentioned by SP - even with his lack of legal knowledge as you made abundantly clear in your posts. Prosecutors do that all the time, the line of "it wasn't great bodily harm" is weak, IMO, because what constitutes great bodily harm is subjective.

I'm still not convinced that you read the Freep very often...Of course at this point I'm not sure you are either

I read it enough to know a double-standard when I see it.

If Dorsey commits a burglary or an assault at Michigan, I GUARANTEE you that the Free Press will say that he should be fired. Dantonio? He gets a tsk tsk, that he'll have to do better. Just like they did with the whole Gang of Misunderstood Student Athletes Who Happened To Wander Into The Wrong Party (Twice) Incident.

[lionstigersand...]

I would sumbit that "over-charging" is a far more common tool/occurrence.

The bottom line was that my assertion about his legal acumen was related to his commenting on a case in which he clearly doens't know the specific/relevant facts - it is my opinion, that had he known all of the accompanying details, he'd have a substantially more difficult time rationalizing felony assault.

We're not making any progress on the Freep bias debate, but I'd just note that there has been more than one article from the Detriot media, that called Dantonio to the carpet, and asserted that all 14 participants (regardless of their level of involvement) should be given the boot.

[Johnny Mac]

I can ease off my source a little bit now, I can see why he was so confident Dorsey was going to FSU

Jimbo Fisher boasts impressive recruiting haul after first signing day as Florida State coach - ESPN

. Demar Dorsey of Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., the country's No. 2 safety prospect, told FSU's coaches late Tuesday night that he would be signing with the Seminoles.

[JonBenke]

Or so he says...

[Johnny Mac]

Originally Posted by JonBenke

Or so he says...

Or so who says? I got that quote from an ESPN story.

[Deleterious]

Originally Posted by Johnny Mac

I can ease off my source a little bit now, I can see why he was so confident Dorsey was going to FSU

Jimbo Fisher boasts impressive recruiting haul after first signing day as Florida State coach - ESPN

I was going to ask if you could make some posts telling us that Anderson wont sign with us either

[Johnny Mac]

Originally Posted by Deleterious

I was going to ask if you could make some posts telling us that Anderson wont sign with us either

The guy giving me the information was dead wrong and I was wrong for being so confident in him, but I know where he got it from, and that article ESPN posted makes me see why he was so confident.

[Deleterious]

Originally Posted by Johnny Mac

The guy giving me the information was dead wrong and I was wrong for being so confident in him, but I know where he got it from, and that article ESPN posted makes me see why he was so confident.

I know. I was just busting balls.

[Johnny Mac]

Originally Posted by Deleterious

I know. I was just busting balls.

Oh I know and I deserve it

[pyrotigers]

Originally Posted by Johnny Mac

I can ease off my source a little bit now, I can see why he was so confident Dorsey was going to FSU

Jimbo Fisher boasts impressive recruiting haul after first signing day as Florida State coach - ESPN

So he pulled a Sean Parker. Nice.

And there's no way Anderson is coming to Michigan, I doubt he could qualify academically and he's from Glenville. A double whammy.

[FRM710]

I had heard he had committed to both FSU and UM, difference is the family member at UM and the desire to get out of FL.

[whoknew]

Originally Posted by lionstigersand...

I actually thought it was pretty funny. If you could have worked Glen Winston in there somewhere I would have given you double points!

Thanks. I guess we are just operating at a higher level of humor than some others.

[Johnny Mac]

so sad, he had a bright future, was a 4 star and in the rivals 250

Vanderbilt Commodores recruit Rajaan Bennett shot to death in apparent murder-suicide - ESPN

unning back Rajaan Bennett, one of Vanderbilt's top-rated signees for the 2010 class, was killed early Thursday morning in an apparent murder-suicide at the family's home in Powder Springs, Ga.

The death of Rajaan Bennett in an apparent murder-suicide hurts so many people -- in his family, at his high school and at Vanderbilt, where teammates and fans won't get to know just how special a player and person he was, writes Chris Low. Blog

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution first reported the story on its Web site.

Police responded to a 911 call about 2:30 a.m. ET Thursday from Bennett's home. When they arrived about four minutes later, they heard gunshots, Powder Springs police Maj. Charles Spann told the Journal-Constitution.

Two people ran from the house following the gunshots, including Bennett's mother, Narjaketha Bennett, and his uncle, Taiwan Hunter, who had been shot. Both were hysterical, police said.

The Cobb County SWAT team was called to the scene, and officers found two people who had been shot and killed inside the home: Bennett, 18, and Clifton O'Neal Steger, 39, who died from a self-inflicted gunshot to the head, according to Powder Springs police Lt. Matt Boyd.

Police said Hunter, 32, who is Narjaketha Bennett's brother, was wounded and underwent surgery. He was in critical condition Thursday afternoon.

Steger was later identified as a former boyfriend of Rajaan Bennett's mother. No motive has been given for the shooting.

Bennett, listed at 5-foot-11 and 210 pounds, rushed for 1,857 yards and 28 touchdowns as a senior at McEachern High School and led his team to an unbeaten regular season. He was recruited by several SEC schools, including Kentucky and Tennessee, before choosing Vanderbilt.

In a statement, Vanderbilt coach Bobby Johnson said the program was "devastated" by Bennett's death and that their thoughts were with his mother and family. "As we got to know Rajaan, it became very clear to our coaches that he was a better person than he was an athlete," he said.

Later, in a meeting with reporters, Johnson's voice cracked with emotion as he recalled the day Bennett committed to Vanderbilt.

"I felt great. In my opinion, it was the best place for him. ... It was going to change his life," he said.

"Rajaan was the man of the house," Johnson added. "He took care of his brother and his mother and his sisters, and they all looked up to him. That's what he was trying to do at the end. You hate to see guys have to have that role that early in their lives, but he handled it as good as anybody possibly could have."

Bennett was rated as a three-star prospect by ESPN Recruiting, and as the 25th-best player in the Journal-Constitution's Fab 50, which was published earlier this month.

Bennett's high school coach, Kyle Hockman, said Bennett was one of the best kids he's ever coached.

"I'm sure you want to talk about Rajaan on the football field, but I promise he's a better person than he is a player," Hockman said when Bennett signed with Vanderbilt. "He has a great head on his shoulders, a guy that has been the man in his household for quite a while, yet still worked to maintain a solid GPA in class and become such a great player.

"Rajaan is both humble and hardworking. He's a guy that is very respected by his teammates and the McEachern community. I think the world of this young man," Hockman said.

McEachern principal Regina Montgomery said counselors would be at the school to help students with the grieving process, but, "we don't know what we're going to do tomorrow, we're just trying to get through today together."

"We have a population of 2,200 kids," Montgomery added, "and when you're Rajaan Bennett, you touch the lives of all 2,200."

This is the second murder that has rocked the Vanderbilt football program during Johnson's tenure as coach. Former running back Kwane Doster was shot and killed in December 2004 while sitting in the back seat of a friend's car in Tampa, Fla.

Doster had just finished his junior season at Vanderbilt. He was named the SEC Freshman of the Year two seasons earlier after rushing for 798 yards.