Class of 2010 Recruiting Thread - Page 5

SpartanValor · #**161** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelton

Interesting development on Gardner. I hope he picks Michigan, obviously. I'm glad to see that OSU isn't on the list. I think it will be between M and MSU. Either he really liked MSU's junior day and is going to commit to them before M's junior day, or he didn't really like MSU, and is going to commit to M right before M's junior day. I tend to think that the latter makes more sense. We'll see.

From what I can gather, he has only visited MSU and Michigan, so I too think it is between those two schools. And every online gossip article also mentions Michigan in the lead, so where there is smoke.....

Buddha · #**162** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 01:46 PM

Isn't Gardner the "athletic type" QB rather than the drop back passer type? Why would he go to MSU?

I'm not disparaging MSU (there will be plenty of time for that later!), but just asking...

Shelton · #**163** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddha

Isn't Gardner the "athletic type" QB rather than the drop back passer type? Why would he go to MSU?

I'm not disparaging MSU (there will be plenty of time for that later!), but just asking...

Isn't Keith Nichol (savior) an "athletic" QB? I don't think MSU is married to the Pro-Style (especially with so few players that will ever make the pros - zing!).

Buddha · #**164** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelton

Isn't Keith Nichol (savior) an "athletic" QB? I don't think MSU is married to the Pro-Style (especially with so few players that will ever make the pros - zing!).

I believe the proper name is Keith "savior" Nichol. I don't know if he's related to Tate "savior" Forcier. It's weird that they both have the same middle name...

Shelton · #**165** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddha

I believe the proper name is Keith "savior" Nichol. I don't know if he's related to Tate "savior" Forcier. It's weird that they both have the same middle name...

I thought Tate's middle name was "messiah."

Buddha · #**166** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelton

I thought Tate's middle name was "messiah."

No, that was Ryan Mallet's middle name until it was legally changed to "completely overrated bust who never fit into the system."

JonBenke · #**167** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddha

Isn't Gardner the "athletic type" QB rather than the drop back passer type? Why would he go to MSU?

I'm not disparaging MSU (there will be plenty of time for that later!), but just asking...

I agree. He's a perfect fit for the new UM offense, which should feature a 4 WR passing attack, much like Oklahoma. He's a good size QB - 6'4 - who's very mobile for his size, possessing an above average arm. And the added bonus of throwing to Ricardo Miller and company, would be nice.

And all the WRs UM is bringing in, you can't negative recruit and tell Gardner that he'll never get a chance to throw at Michigan ... he will.

Michigan is also close to adding another WR/CB commit; D.J. Williamson .. from Warren, OH (marion manningham). I think he'll play CB at UM.

tys-spikes84 · #**168** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBenke

Michigan is also close to adding another WR/CB commit; D.J. Williamson .. from Warren, OH (marion manningham). I think he'll play CB at UM.

Dude, not cool.

Shelton · #**169** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBenke

I agree. He's a perfect fit for the new UM offense, which should feature a 4 WR passing attack, much like Oklahoma. He's a good size QB - 6'4 - who's very mobile for his size, possessing an above average arm. And the added bonus of throwing to Ricardo Miller and company, would be nice.

And all the WRs UM is bringing in, you can't negative recruit and tell Gardner that he'll never get a chance to throw at Michigan ... he will.

Michigan is also close to adding another WR/CB commit; D.J. Williamson .. from Warren, OH (marion manningham). I think he'll play CB at UM.

I think the only way RR gets Williamson is if he promises him the starting QB job.

JonBenke · #**170** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tys-spikes84

Dude, not cool.

Go read up about the kid, he's nothing like Manningham .. the person.

I only mentioned that -- obviously, because there are certain areas of Ohio that are Michigan territories, and this is one of them.

JonBenke · #**171** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelton

I think the only way RR gets Williamson is if he promises him the starting QB job.

Go read the last post in the 2009 thread. I've yet to get a response

lesgoblu02 · #**172** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 02:20 PM

look up Benke

SpartanValor · #**173** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddha

Isn't Gardner the "athletic type" QB rather than the drop back passer type? Why would he go to MSU?

I'm not disparaging MSU (there will be plenty of time for that later!), but just asking...

Shelton pretty much answered this.....but I'll try to add to his response.

I actually posted this a while back, but word out of EL is that MD wants to alternate pro-style QBs with dual threat QBs on his roster. Which is supposedly why he wants either Gardner or Bolden, while Boisture got the cold shoulder. Nichol is dual threat and Maxwell is pro-style, so he wants another dual threat to come in after Maxwell. Supposedly, this is what OSU does as well, so that may be where MD got this from.

SpartanValor · #**174** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 04:01 PM

Just my opinion....but what I think solidifies Gardner to Michigan is the fact that after his MSU visit, he said he would name leaders in the summer (but might not commit). Now, all of a sudden, he's ready to commit. Obviously something happened between his MSU visit and today, but if he wasn't this confident in his decision right after the MSU visit (when your excitement for a school would seemingly be at its highest), I doubt he would be jumping for MSU now.

Just my thought. I also think we will not have lost much if we end up with Bolden....but if we don't get Bolden either, that would be a serious blow.

Hongbit · #**175** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelton

I thought Tate's middle name was "messiah."

I thought it was "5th or 6th best HS QB in Southern California in 2009"

Shelton · #**176** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hongbit

I thought it was "5th or 6th best HS QB in Southern California in 2009"

I wouldn't know. I just checked rivals, though, and he appears to be the top dual threat QB from CA, and the 3rd overall QB from CA. Still, "better than Threet" is good enough for me.

Hongbit · #**177** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 04:16 PM

Barkley (USC)
Brehaut (UCLA)
Nunes (Stanford)
Bridgeford (Cal)
Forcier (UM)

Tate faced much lower level competition than all of these guys.

Hongbit · #**178** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 04:35 PM

Back to the matters at hand in the 2010 thread.

Rivals has just released their 1st Top 100.

5 Stars
1) Seantrel Henderson - Saint Paul (MN) Cretin-Derham Hall - OL
2) Lache Seastrunk - Temple (TX) Temple - RB
3) Darius White -Fort Worth (TX) Dunbar - WR
4) Marcus Lattimore - Duncan (SC) Byrnes - RB
5) Matt Elam - West Palm Beach (FL) Dwyer - ATH - Florida
6) Jackson Jeffcoat - Plano (TX) Plano West - DE
7) Lamarcus Joyner - Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas - DB
8) James Hurst - Indianapolis (IN) Plainfield - OL
9) Michael Dyer - Little Rock (AR) Little Rock Christian - RB 5
10) Jeff Luc - Port St. Lucie (FL) Treasure Coast - LB
11) Malcolm Jones - Westlake Village (CA) Oaks Christian - RB
12) Chris Martin - Oakland (CA) Bishop O'Dowd - LB -Notre Dame

4 Stars
13) Ronald Powell - Moreno Valley (CA) Rancho Verde - ATH 6
14) Trovon Reed - Thibodaux (LA) Thibodaux - WR
15) J.R. Ferguson - Frederick (MD) St. John's Catholic Prep - DE
16) Jordan Hicks - West Chester (OH) Lakota West - LB
17) D.J. Morgan - Woodland Hills (CA) Taft - RB - USC
18) Kyle Prater - Hillside (IL) Proviso West - WR
19) Anthony Barr - Torrance (CA) Loyola - RB
20) Reggie Wilson - Haltom City (TX) Haltom - DE

Other names of interest:

44) Will Gholston - Detroit (MI) Southeastern - DE
54) Andrew Norwell - Cincinnati (OH) Anderson - DE - Ohio State
66) Latwan Anderson - Lakewood (OH) St. Edward - DB
81) Joe Boisture - Saline (MI) Saline - QB - Boston College
99) Marvin Robinson - Eagle Lake (FL) Lake Region - DB

SpartanValor · #**179** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 04:41 PM

Thats, well, interesting that Boisture is ranked ahead of Gardner and Bolden.

JonBenke · #**180** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lesgoblu02

look up Benke

WTF - what does this even mean?

Shelton · #**181** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 06:51 PM

You misspelled "Mario."

JonBenke · #**182** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelton

You misspelled "Mario."

I was typing fast .. I didn't misspell his name more than just hit the N button .. wow, really? It's not as if I Ryan Rayburn-ed him or anything!!

tys-spikes84 · #**183** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 07:06 PM

I was only joking with you Benke, mainly because you called Mario, Marion. As in a girl's name.

But seriously, don't do it again.

Shelton · #**184** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tys-spikes84

As in a girl's name.

I was thinking coked-up mayor, but same difference.

JonBenke · #**185** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tys-spikes84

I was only joking with you Benke, mainly because you called Mario, Marion. As in a girl's name.

But seriously, don't do it again.

Yeah, I caught that ..... now. Hey, I'm not that big of a fan of his anymore. So maybe that's just what I'll call him now -- Marion

sinister porpoise · #**186** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 07:31 PM

Insider at Buckeyeplanet says Gardner to UM. http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/2...ml#post1426455

Moderator on the next page of that thread says the guy claiming that is a proven insider and trustworthy -- I dunno, but I doubt he's just a random Joe.

tys-spikes84 · #**187** (**permalink**) 03-11-2009, 10:49 PM

I think a potentially optimal situation would be Gardner committing to UM, honoring the commitment, coming in and red-shirting his first year. Or maybe even better yet, enroll early and become a viable back-up option allowing Denard Robinson to use his speed as a receiver or DB. Then again this actually happening picture perfect is not so probable. Also, this is obviously assuming Tate beats out DRob. I really just want wins.

InfanteIago · #**188** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 12:26 AM

Why is Rodriguez going after Gardner? I thought Rodriguez never recruited the state of Michigan?

donny1351 · #**189** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 12:50 PM

Last I heard Gardner had moved up his announcement date again, from Monday to Michigan's first spring practice. But now the DetNews is reporting its already done.

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...903120452/1361

Sparks4Ever · #**190** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 01:11 PM

I wonder if RR asked Gardner to announce before the weekend to maybe add a little more excitement to their Junior day and encourage other kids to sign over the weekend?

SpartanValor · #**191** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 01:21 PM

Its probably silly to say particular individuals are "must have" players...but MSU better get Bolden to commit to the Spartans.

RJBBREZ · #**192** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SpartanValor

Its probably silly to say particular individuals are "must have" players...but MSU better get Bolden to commit to the Spartans.

Why? I thought your roster was stacked at that position?

RJBBREZ · #**193** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tys-spikes84

I think a potentially optimal situation would be Gardner committing to UM, honoring the commitment, coming in and red-shirting his first year.

Hey we can dream.... Gardner committing is huge any way you look at it.

SpartanValor · #**194** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RJBBREZ

Why? I thought your roster was stacked at that position?

As Michigan illustrated last year, its always good to have depth at the QB position.

lionstigersand... · #**195** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SpartanValor

Its probably silly to say particular individuals are "must have" players...but MSU better get Bolden to commit to the Spartans.

Actually, I (gulp), agree with RJBrez... I just don't see a true need for a QB in the 2010 class. And our situation (two sophs and a true frosh - two of them Elite 11 Qb's) for next year doesn't paint a favorable depth picture either. If we get Bolden, I'd be pretty impressed.

Shelton · #**196** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 04:14 PM

Threet was elite 11.

lionstigersand... · #**197** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelton

Threet was elite 11.

If Sheridan had been too, I'd really like your situation!

SpartanValor · #**198** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lionstigersand...

Actually, I (gulp), agree with RJBrez... I just don't see a true need for a QB in the 2010 class. And our situation (two sophs and a true frosh - two of them Elite 11 Qb's) for next year doesn't paint a favorable depth picture either. If we get Bolden, I'd be pretty impressed.

I guess there isn't a need, per se, but theres no guarantee when it comes to QBs. Maxwell kind of blew up after the Elite 11 camp, but theres no telling whether thats legit or will be maintained. I'd rather not pine my hopes on one guy, especially when we have the opportunity in-state to get Bolden. (Assuming Maxwell redshirts, he (or the class of 2010 QB) could be a two year starter. So I'm not too concerned about Nichol being in the way). Hypothetically, theres always next year, but I don't know what next year has to offer (what would we be talking here, high school freshmen....

) thats why I said I wanted to get the talent when its sitting right there. These 3 in-state QBs could all be the best QB in Michigan any given year. The state is loaded in 2010, to miss out on all 3 would sting.

Todd · #**199** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 05:26 PM

Hello: Devin Gardner

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Michigan received a verbal commitment from Inkster junior quarterback Devin Gardner late Wednesday. Gardner is 6-foot-3 and weighs 185 pounds. He was named to The Detroit News all-state first team after leading Inkster to the Division 3 final.

"I was surprised," Inkster coach Greg Carter said. "I thought it would be a last-minute thing. He told me he wanted his mom (Marlene McClellan) to be a part of his football experience. He knows what a Michigan education can do for him in this area when he's done playing. That's the type of conversation I had with Cam (Cameron Gordon)."

http://mgoblog.com/content/hello-devin-gardner

JonBenke · #**200** (**permalink**) 03-12-2009, 06:04 PM

I just read that DickRod is lying to Gardner, that he'll never take a snap at QB. They're going to put him on defense as either a S or LB :sad: