Class of 2010 Recruiting Thread

[Tressel]

ok fine, 7th

[KleShreen]

Originally Posted by Tressel

what you said isn't true....even if he committed, he wouldn't play ahead of Pryor. Just b/c you think he is a much better passer than Pryor doesn't mean he is. TP has progressed a ton since last season according to various media outlets....so again, don't worry about tOSU and their recruiting. Just stick to battling with Sparty fans about your bunch of 5'8 athletes that will be on a 6th place big 10 team

Who said he was talking about tUoO$? Get over yourself.

[Tressel]

well, considering his message said "Ohio State being #1".....can you read?

[spikesglaring]

Originally Posted by whoknew

I know this isn't about football but assuming you are a basketball fan - my UT buddy just told me that y'all lost your #1 basketball recruit because he wanted to go to a Nike school.

Did you hear that?

Yeah, the #7 player in the country and a PG, our biggest need. Someone got in his ear (or wallet) and turned him while our coach is out of the country. More proof college basketball is the dirtiest sport around.

[RJBBREZ]

Originally Posted by Tressel

what you said isn't true....even if he committed, he wouldn't play ahead of Pryor. Just b/c you think he is a much better passer than Pryor doesn't mean he is. TP has progressed a ton since last season according to various media outlets....so again, don't worry about tOSU and their recruiting. Just stick to battling with Sparty fans about your bunch of 5'8 athletes that will be on a 6th place big 10 team

Since when are media outlets spot on with the truth? Let me guess because it is a "tOSU" media outlet, it is the best in the world and cannot be incorrect. You seem pretty defensive of Pryor, I guess I would be too If I predicted he would win the heisman like you did.

[Tressel]

I know, b/c him winning the heisman before he leaves is such a stretch...and the same media outlets have been correct in almost everything they've printed before, so I guess I'll just have to continue to believe what they print..

[Hongbit]

Originally Posted by spikesglaring

The kid is likely going to USC because he has illusions that he's better than any QB they have and his daddy wants him to stay close to home.

I wouldn't dog him too hard. There's a very good chance that he sends his LOI to Knoxville on signing day regardless of what he says now.

[Hongbit]

Maybe this is the wrong thread but since the subject has been brought up it got me thinking.

Where is Michigan today if Rodriguez was able to land Pryor?

Not sure how many wins it would've changed last year but the attitude going into this season would be completely different. He would've been the perfect fit in this system. The biggest weakness would become one of the strengths, the playbook would be dramatically expanded and the offense would look dangerous. I don't think it's out of the realm to think they could be ranked. Every program has big recruits who got away but this one was an immediate program changer.

[billms]

Hard to say. I bet he would have been worth a few more wins - and probably the bowl streak would have been alive. Maybe ranked low...

The thing that bugs me is that he reportedly said that he didn't want to play for michigan because the offense doesn't produce pro quarterbacks. I think that a fair amount of RR's history goes against that. But I guess we'll see over time - at michigan he won't have any excuse for not getting exactly the players he wants. Devin and Tate will go a long way to settling if Pryor was right.

[Johnny Mac]

new rivals100 out. Joe Boisture dropped out of top 100, based on the q&a with rivals following ratings release, sounds like he will drop a couple spots in the qb ratings as well (they basically said he dropped out of top 100 because they saw some qbs at camps and stuff they liked better than Boisture).

also Gholston remains a 4 star and some MSU fans complained to rivals about that too and were told basically that Gholston has succeeded in high school as a LB and he is built to compete at the next level as a DE and from what they have seen of him working out at DE he has struggled. They basically said they need to see him improve his abilities playing DE before they give him a bump in the rankings.

[spikesglaring]

Originally Posted by Hongbit

I wouldn't dog him too hard. There's a very good chance that he sends his LOI to Knoxville on signing day regardless of what he says now.

I don't see it. If he announces that he's going to USC on Thursday, I think Kiffin will begin pursuing B. Brunetti. He's from Memphis and has committed to West Virginia, but it's widely believed he would love to go to UT if the offer was to come along.

All I know is that Scroggins is getting far too much media coverage in July for a high school kid, and he's loving every moment of it.

[Shelton]

Originally Posted by Hongbit

Maybe this is the wrong thread but since the subject has been brought up it got me thinking.

Where is Michigan today if Rodriguez was able to land Pryor?

Not sure how many wins it would've changed last year but the attitude going into this season would be completely different. He would've been the perfect fit in this system. The biggest weakness would become one of the strengths, the playbook would be dramatically expanded and the offense would look dangerous. I don't think it's out of the realm to think they could be ranked. Every program has big recruits who got away but this one was an immediate program changer.

It was a huge decision. Though, I'm not really sure that he was really ever all that close to picking Michigan. Either way, I think it would have resulted at least in wins over Toledo, Purdue, NwU, and possibly Utah and MSU. It's hard to say, but it's an interesting exercise.

As far as the program as a whole, it probably would have resulted in a slightly better recruiting class last year and this coming year. However, given the youth at all the other positions, I don't know that I would call it a program changing decision. It definitely hurt, but with Forcier, Robinson, and Gardner in the fold, they should make up for it rather quickly. I think it set the program back a year, but given the experience of last year's freshman who are now sophomores, I think this year's team will be better than what last year's team would have been with Pryor.

Yeah, I agree that the attitude in the media would be completely different coming off a winning season and going into this year with a second year QB. They would probably be hovering in the 25-30 range rankingwise. I expect this hypothetical situation to be the case going into next year.

[Shelton]

Question for anyone in the know regarding the Elite 11 camp:

How are Boisture and Gardner looking so far? Are there any other QBs there of interest to Big Ten football followers?

[sportz4life]

Originally Posted by Shelton

Question for anyone in the know regarding the Elite 11 camp:

How are Boisture and Gardner looking so far? Are there any other QBs there of interest to Big Ten football followers?

Boisture was named 2nd most accurate passer Golden Gun contest

[Johnny Mac]

Originally Posted by Shelton

Question for anyone in the know regarding the Elite 11 camp:

How are Boisture and Gardner looking so far? Are there any other QBs there of interest to Big Ten football followers?

Obviously Boisture was outshone by some other QBs because Rivals said he dropped in the rankings because other qbs they saw impressed them more.

edited - posted a quote from pay material, thought it was a free article but was wrong. sorry

[lionstigersand...]

Originally Posted by Johnny Mac

Obviously Boisture was outshone by some other QBs because Rivals said he dropped in the rankings because other qbs they saw impressed them more.

edited - posted a quote from pay material, thought it was a free article but was wrong. sorry

Not really much of a move, went from, I believe it was 92 (or thereabouts) to 104. It looks like a couple qb's slightly bounced ahead of him. I kind of assumed he was probably going to drop a little (I actually thought he might descend a touch more). Sounds like there will eventually be some reshuffling following the Elite 11 (where Boisture is by most accounts, having a pretty good go of it) - so I'd expect him to probably remain in that 90-125 range.

Originally Posted by shelton

How are Boisture and Gardner looking so far? Are there any other QBs there of interest to Big Ten football followers?

I haven't looked yet to see what else they've said about Gardner, but this type of event really doesn't lend itself to displaying the type of skill set he brings to the table.

Another MI QB is that's there is Robert Bolden (PSU), and it sounds like he's acquitting himself well.

[Johnny Mac]

Originally Posted by lionstigersand...

Not really much of a move, went from, I believe it was 92 (or thereabouts) to 104. It looks like a couple qb's slightly bounced ahead of him. I kind of assumed he was probably going to drop a little (I actually thought he might descend a touch more). Sounds like there will eventually be some reshuffling following the Elite 11 (where Boisture is by most accounts, having a pretty good go of it) - so I'd expect him to probably remain in that 90-125 range.

Thats not really how rivals makes it sound. I dont want to post a quote from their premium stories, but if you have an account read this.

http://michiganstate.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=967267

I haven't looked yet to see what else they've said about Gardner, but this type of event really doesn't lend itself to displaying the type of skill set he brings to the table.

The same article basically says him and Bolden were two of the guys he would want to build his team around.

[benrush]

I don't want MSU fans to take this the wrong way, But Bosture has an eerly similar delivery to another Elite 11 camp alumnist from the state of Michigan, according to the premimum content I read. Says he has a hitch and long motion which will need to be corrected. But again everything I read on him was he would need at least two to three years to develop into his 6-6 frame anyway.

Bolden and Gardner have both earned rave reviews with Gardner having the higher ceiling but Bolden being more consistent in terms of throwing and motion.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by benrush

But again everything I read on him was he would need at least two to three years to develop ....

I think this is true of all HS QBs... I think OSU made a huge mistake starting Pryor last year. He was one of the worst throwing QBs I have ever seen, but given time, I am sure he will hone his skills. Also, IMO I think the MSU/UM ping pong pissing match (Gardner is... Boisture is...) is getting old...

[Deleterious]

Originally Posted by Shelton

Question for anyone in the know regarding the Elite 11 camp:

How are Boisture and Gardner looking so far? Are there any other QBs there of interest to Big Ten football followers?

Chandler Whitmer starts to stand out from the pack - ESPN

• Michigan commit Devin Gardner (Inkster, Mich./Inkster) has also surprised many. His hustle, leadership and athleticism add up to a tremendous maturity that will help him compete early for playing time in Ann Arbor. He was a notch behind Bolden throwing it, but still has a strong arm and excellent size.

They also had a snippet about Bolden, but no mention of Boisture. The main article these snippets come from is about Illinois recruit Chandler Whitmer.

• Penn State commit Robert Bolden (Orchard Lake, Mich./Saint Mary's) has surprised many at the camp. It's obvious what he can do with his legs when you watch him on film, but he can throw it.

[Deleterious]

Inkster's Devin Gardner compared to Terrelle Pryor at Elite 11 quarterback camp | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

Inkster's Devin Gardner compared to Terrelle Pryor at Elite 11 quarterback camp

Michigan 2010 quarterback commitment Devin Gardner of Inkster is considered one of the best high school players in the state and one of the best quarterbacks in his class nationally.
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He's showing that this week at the Elite 11 quarterback camp at Soka University in Aliso Viejo, Calif., as one of the 12 invited QBs, along with Michigan State commit Joe Boisture of Saline and Penn State pledge Robert Bolden of Orchard Lake St. Mary's.

Some recruiting Web sites have representatives there scouting and filing reports on Gardner's play.

• ESPN.com (JC Shurburtt from Scouts, Inc.): "Gardner has also surprised many. His hustle, leadership and athleticism add up to a tremendous maturity that will help him compete early for playing time in Ann Arbor. He was a notch behind Bolden throwing it, but still has a strong arm and excellent size."

• Rivals.com (Barry Every): Every pointed out Gardner's impressive size at 6-foot-4, 195 pounds, his athleticism and arm strength. He cited Gardner's problems throwing while rolling because that will be a big part of his college game, but liked his arm and accuracy in the pocket. Every writes: "He may not be as big or fast as current Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor, but he is a close second. I am torn between him and Bolden as to who I would take to build a college football team around."

• Scout.com (Scott Kennedy): "Gardner is a superior athlete who is handcuffed a bit by a passing camp that doesn't showcase his playmaking ability with his legs. However, as one might expect, Gardner was solid in the bootleg drills, and while struggling hitting the deep-out to live receivers, Gardner picked up his game in the target practice segment, showing off better accuracy than many of his Elite 11 teammates."

[Bubba]

MSU bolts to No. 1 for Ohio athlete Kurtis Drummond | detnews.com | The Detroit News

MSU bolts to No. 1 for Ohio athlete Kurtis Drummond

Versatile. In a word, that describes the game of Hubbard, Ohio, athlete Kurtis Drummond. The 6-foot-3, 195-pounder has emerged as one of the most coveted prospects in the Buckeye State this summer, which stands in stark contrast to the obscure status he held at this time last year.

"The recruiting process has surprised me a lot," Drummond said to Scout.com. "I missed my sophomore season with a knee injury. I've only played one year of varsity football right now."

During that lone season he demonstrated the type of two-way potential that garnered numerous scholarship offers from colleges across the Midwest. A wideout on offense, Drummond hauled in 16 passes for 281 yards and four touchdowns last season. At his cornerback position, he registered 49 tackles, three interceptions and two sacks.

"On offense I'm an aggressive receiver," Drummond said. "I'm going to go after the ball and I can block. I get key blocks. I'll always hustle no matter where the ball is going. On defense I like to hit. I like to be involved. I'm not going to back down from anybody. I'm going to come get you.

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"I've got some schools looking at me as a strong safety/outside linebacker, some schools are looking at me at receiver, and some schools are just leaving it up to me -- wherever I want to (play)."

Michigan State is among the programs that showed early interest in that versatility via an offer. Recently, arch-rival Michigan also jumped into the fray. Joining the Spartans and Wolverines on the scholarship ledger are Akron, Toledo, Kent State, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Ohio, Miami of Ohio, Indiana, Louisville, Cincinnati, Syracuse, Boston College and Wisconsin. A few others may add to that list in the coming days.

"West Virginia is waiting on me to come down and visit before they offer," Drummond said. "I've been getting a lot of talk from Iowa. (The list) could get bigger, but I'm not really sure."

What Drummond is sure about is the school that currently sits atop his leaderboard. A few short weeks ago Michigan held that distinction. A late June visit to the Wolverines' summer camp had seemingly solidified the position that they had long occupied in his heart.

"I was definitely a Wolverine fan growing up," he admitted. "(The offer from Michigan) meant a little bit more because of me growing up watching them. At the school I used to go to, the helmets and colors were just like Michigan, so I was into that. I was into the whole Michigan thing because it reminded me of us."

Despite that boyhood affinity for the winged helmets, Drummond has insisted all along that his recruitment will be determined by more than pure emotion.

"I've got it set in my mind that I want to see the places and get to know the people first," Drummond explained. "I don't want to just go by the name."

That open-mindedness gave the Michigan State coaching staff ample opportunity to make up ground when Drummond made a trip to East Lansing a day after he was in Ann Arbor.

"I liked it," Drummond said of Michigan State. "I got a tour of the campus and facilities. I met with the strength coach, the academic advisor and some players. They showed me some film of the things they do. Michigan State is at the top of the list right now. Just talking to some of the coaches and some players gave me more of an understanding of Michigan State. That helped out a lot."

Other programs hoping to make a similar move up Drummond's list may not have much time to do so. His recruitment could come to a close in the very near future.

Said Drummond, "There's a good chance it could happen before the season, but I'm not 100 percent sure yet. For one thing I want to figure out if defense is what I want to play first. It also depends on what other schools I get out and see, how much they continue talking, and things like that.

"The goal is to make a decision before the season to get it out of the way so I can focus on my last season. But ... I don't want to rush into it just because I gave myself a timeframe."

That comfort will ultimately be determined by a set list of criteria.

"I want to go somewhere that fits," Drummond said. "I want to go somewhere that competes. I want to have a chance to win some games and championships. I want to go where I have a chance to play earlier than later. I don't want to just be a player hidden that nobody knows about. I want to go somewhere that's a family atmosphere and where the players have fun and have a tight bond with the coaches. Somewhere where the coaches aren't just worried about you as a football player -- where they are (also) making sure (players) go to class and preparing them to become men."

Sam Webb is managing editor of GoBlueWolverine magazine and GoBlueWolverine.com, and co-host of the "Michigan Insider" morning show weekdays on Sports Talk 1050 WTKA. His column appears every Thursday.

[Johnny Mac]

Originally Posted by KleShreen

Holmes Onwukaife (LB/DE) (6-2.5, 220) Leander/Cedar Park TX

Holmes Onwukaife committed to FSU today, apparently Michigan offered him a scholarship but then told him he couldn't commit or something. Sounds a little shady to me, seems like someone UM could have used. He is better than Jordan Paskorz.

[Shelton]

Rivals has put out its "way too early" team recruiting rankings.

Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Fast start puts Texas on top of team rankings

[SpartanValor]

I'm actually surprised to see MSU ranked that highly. If we can pull in a few more pieces, maybe Mathis and/or Olanyian, we're gonna have another great class (not that 22 is bad in any way shape or form, compared to recent MSU history).

PSU is putting together an insane class.

How many silent 5* verbals do you think USC has? I'm guessing they won't finish 12th in the country when all is said and done....

ND/Charlie Weis: The running joke that keeps on giving.

[billms]

I think you get Mathis. It appears that there is no room in AA even if he decided to come.

[JonBenke]

USC will once again compete for a recruiting national championship

A recruiting national championship? Really?

[Deleterious]

Devin Gardner’s Elite 11 performance earns rave reviews | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

Devin Gardner’s Elite 11 performance earns rave reviews

The Elite 11 quarterback camp is the most sought-after invitation by high school seniors, but only 12 players nationwide make the trip. This year, three of those 12 hailed from the state of Michigan.
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Inkster’s Devin Gardner joined Orchard Lake St. Mary's QB Robert Bolden and Saline's Joe Boisture at the event last week in southern California. All three got invitations after taking part in the Nike camp in Champaign, Ill., in June, though Gardner’s ticket was all but stamped even before then.

“We pretty much knew we wanted Devin after watching his junior film,” Elite 11 camp director Greg Biggins said. “Basically, he just needed to come to the Nike camp and not tank it for him to get invited.”

Gardner did not tank his Nike camp appearance and learned about his Elite 11 invite just days after. There was still a question of how the dual-threat quarterback would stack up against pro-style QBs in a climate focused almost exclusively on the passing.

Gardner rose to the challenge, earning counselor awards for best footwork and work in the classroom. Rivals.com national analyst Barry Every ranked Gardner as the top overall quarterback at the camp based on long-term potential and the ability to win football games.

“I don’t think there’s any question, after having seen him for four days, how hard he competes and how hard he wants to be the best,” Every said.

Every and Biggins agreed Gardner compares favorably at the same stage of his career to players like Vince Young, Tim Tebow, Juice Williams and Dennis Dixon., all Elite 11 alumni. That’s good news for Wolverine fans still reeling from abysmal quarterback play last season.


Gardner’s performance at the most celebrated venue for high school quarterbacks nationally will undoubtedly raise the 6-foot-5, 210-pounder’s rankings. Every wrote following the camp he strongly believes Gardner is a top 100 prospect. Rivals.com currently has him ranked as the No. 170 prospect in the country.

Josh Helmholdt is the football recruiting editor for The Wolverine Magazine and TheWolverine.com. He is also a national recruiting analyst for Rivals.com.

Gardner was also just invited to the UnderArmour All-American game next year as well.

[JonBenke]

That's awesome. Could Devin Gardner be near a fifth star?

[lesgoblu02]

Originally Posted by JonBenke

That's awesome. Could Devin Gardner be near a fifth star?

Possibly, but I think he will stick at 4 teetering on the brink of 5. I also think he is the opening day starter in 2011.

[JonBenke]

Originally Posted by lesgoblu02

Possibly, but I think he will stick at 4 teetering on the brink of 5. I also think he is the opening day starter in 2011.

I agree, and only asked about the 5th * because some said him, Marvin Robinson and Ricardo Miller were all 5* talents, but were intially rated low.

[tys-spikes84]

Originally Posted by lesgoblu02

Possibly, but I think he will stick at 4 teetering on the brink of 5. I also think he is the opening day starter in 2011.

I don't think he will be the opening day starter in 2011. Assuming he's a redshirt in '10, he could get some good work in relief in '11, compete for a job in '12 which would be Tate/Denard's senior year. I am hoping Tate works out well and Denard can provide some big play ability more as an ATH than a QB. But, I feel that if Gardner is the starting QB in '11 the program is in big trouble, or Tate/Denard is hurt. Either way, it seems like it's been forever since UofM actually turned over QBs with an experienced sophomore or junior taking the reigns. We'll see, either way I'm pretty excited for all three of the guys mentioned in this post.

[billms]

There is no way he will redshirt in my opinion. There appears to be zero chance that he will stay 5 years - and if not there is no point in redshirting him. But I agree, there is close to zero chance that he will be the opening day starter.

Tate is a fine fit for the offense, unlike Sheridan. So is DRob. With a year under their belts they will hold him off.

[Hongbit]

This place is going be in total meltdown mode when Nick Sheridan is named the starting QB.

[tys-spikes84]

Originally Posted by billms

There is no way he will redshirt in my opinion. There appears to be zero chance that he will stay 5 years - and if not there is no point in redshirting him. But I agree, there is close to zero chance that he will be the opening day starter.

Tate is a fine fit for the offense, unlike Sheridan. So is DRob. With a year under their belts they will hold him off.

I think you're right there's a good chance Gardner doesn't get a RS, but I think a lot of that depends on the depth at QB in '10. If DRob is best suited at another position then probably no red shirt for Gardner. If Tate and DRob are proving to be good as a QB tandem then I'd be all for a RS, if needed it can always be lifted during the season. A lot of that depends on how he buys into the notion of being RS'ed, will he be happy taking a year to learn everything and distance himself class wise from Tate/DRob? We'll see I guess, hopefully having this talent proves to be a good problem to have.

[Tressel]

tOSU lands 4* WR James Louis out of FL. Kid is going to be a great playmaker. Kind of a surprise get, as many expected him to stay south, but he made the right decision

[Deleterious]

How Michigan quarterbacks fared at Elite 11 camp | detnews.com | The Detroit News

How Michigan quarterbacks fared at Elite 11 camp

The state of Michigan was well represented at this year's Elite 11 quarterback camp. The nationally-renowned event at Soka University in Aliso Viejo, Calif., featured three Great Lakes State signal callers -- Inkster's Devin Gardner (Scout.com's No. 6 QB), Orchard Lake St. Mary's Robert Bolden (Scout.com's No. 8 QB) and Saline's Joe Boisture (Scout.com's No. 14 QB).

To get a handle on the performances of three, we chatted with Scout.com's director of scouting, Scott Kennedy. He was on hand to evaluate the quarterbacks during every day of the camp. We also checked in with Scout.com Midwest analyst Allen Trieu, who has been tracking the progress of each player for well over a year. Trieu provides an updated stock report on all three.

Elite 11 evaluations with Scott Kennedy:

Boisture: "(He is) the more traditional drop back guy. He is not a guy that is going to beat you with his feet. He can move a little bit. He sets up OK, but he is a little bit mechanical and a little bit robotic. He is a little bit stiff.

"I noticed he had some of his problems when they were doing a pass rush drill. They were making the guy shuffle from one way to the next, and then they have to turn their back to the line scrimmage to spin out under control. That is when it kind of showed that he wasn't as athletic as some of the other guys.

"But he was also one of the tallest guys there (6-5). So he's got something that some of those other guys will never have. He doesn't necessarily have the athleticism, but how many guys in the NFL are beating you with their feet anyway?"

Gardner: "He wasn't as smooth as some of the other guys when you compare him to a guy like Jake Heaps or Chandler Whitmer. He's not quite as smooth in his release. He is just not as polished a passer, but he was still making all the throws.

"There were certain times when he might take a little bit longer to make a release and other times when he was getting the ball out a little faster, but he was still making all the throws. That is always the big question with the (quarterbacks) that are athletes. I've seen guys that are athletes that can't hit a 12-yard out route. If you can't make that pass, you can't play quarterback at the next level. (Gardner) can make that pass relatively easy. He has plenty of velocity on it.

"I went back and watched his (highlight) video, which I hadn't watched since March, and he is a different player. I told Devin that at the end of camp. I said, 'Devin, I watched some video and you're not the same guy.' If he was that same guy as a sophomore in college, he's playing receiver, tight end or somewhere else. That guy couldn't make the throws that I was watching Devin Gardner make with how he has progressed in almost a full year since he played last fall."

Bolden: "He is a better passer at this juncture mechanically than Boisture. He's not quite as good an athlete and hasn't showed the same type of production that Gardner has. But he has one of those real flexible releases. He seems to be able to bend (his arm) in almost any direction and release from all different angles with velocity. He's one of those guys that looks like he just whips the ball around and is able to get something on it no matter where he is throwing it from.

"You're not always going to get to drop back and go through your perfect release. So being able to throw from different angles is important because half the time you are going to have a 300-pound guy draped on you.

"With his arm and everything, I thought he was the farthest ahead of the three as a passer. Devin was the best athlete and Joe was the guy that had the best frame. It is a pretty interesting dynamic between the three of them because it's one position, but they're three totally different guys. That's what makes this game so much fun."

Stock report with Allen Trieu:

Gardner (stock up): "Gardner has gone from athlete to quarterback. Before, I always felt he got by on his raw tools and playmaking skills. Now, he has refined himself from a quarterback standpoint. He has improved his mechanics, accuracy and arm strength. There is still work to be done, but he is night and day if you compare his passes to this time last year. The great thing about Devin is that he works hard and is always looking to get better. What we have to see now is if that improved passing translates onto the field this fall."

Bolden (stock up): "Bolden has had an excellent summer. Every camp he has gone to, he has been impressive. There seems to some misconception about his style of play. I think the Elite 11 and other camps have shown that he is a polished quarterback who can stand in the pocket and make all the throws. Yes he can throw on the run and he can escape the rush and make plays with his feet, but he is much more of a passer than runner. What he needs to keep working on is filling out his frame and also needs to (play at a high level) on the field this fall. Will Orchard Lake let him open it up more this season? That would be nice to see, but either way, Penn State got a good one here."

Boisture (stock even): "Once Boisture is able to get into college and gets some coaching, he will really begin to capitalize on his potential. He has great height and a strong, accurate arm. All the things he needs to work on just have to do with development. He has to keep getting bigger and stronger, and he needs to work on some of the finer points of the position, like making reads and knowing where to go with the ball. His ceiling is very high and he's a guy who I think will redshirt a year and then begin to push for playing time."

[lionstigersand...]

4* safety, (and Rivals 250 member) Isiah Lewis popped for MSU today. Another nice grab for Dantonio and company.

[monkeynuts]

Originally Posted by lionstigersand...

4* safety, (and Rivals 250 member) Isiah Lewis popped for MSU today. Another nice grab for Dantonio and company.

Very solid get there. Dantanio is definitely building a pretty strong defense, with a 4* LB, 4* DE, and 4* Safety already in the mix for next year (not to mention other solid players like Hicks).

[lionstigersand...]

Originally Posted by monkeynuts

Very solid get there. Dantanio is definitely building a pretty strong defense, with a 4* LB, 4* DE, and 4* Safety already in the mix for next year (not to mention other solid players like Hicks).

Just a little aside, but the MSU Staff (in particular Barnett and Dantonio) are as excited about Hicks as any of them (the other D recruits). I think in a lot of people's eyes he became the State's number one prep corner recruit. And when you consider that he's still only 16 years old...With that speed, quickness, good hips, good size...The full package there.