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Motor City Sonics
03-31-2007, 10:08 PM
x-Boston - Even after Manny Ramirez goes on DL with tattoo infection
Toronto -Vernon Wells has a monster year
New York - Finally, relief from the reign
Baltimore - Remember when they were really good?
Tampa Bay - If they only had some pitching....they'd be good.

x-Detroit - Andrew Miller and Kyle Sleeth to the rescue
x-Chicago - Ozzie Guillen claims Jesus was overrated - gets fired
Cleveland - They could be scary - but for that bullpen
Minnesota - Best 4th place team since the 3 division format started.
Kansas City - I remember when they dominated the west


x-Texas - They have a great lineup, their pitching needs to hold
Los Angeles - I just don't believe in this team for some reason
Oakland - Lost two key players
Seattle - Ozzie Guillen claims Nirvana was overrated.


AL CHAMP - Detroit. Kenny Rogers comes back just in time to be eligible for the playoffs and pitches 31 scoreless innings.


x- New York - Why did it take so long for Willie Randolph to get a job?
x- Philadelphia - Fear Ryan Howard, fear him.
Florida - We'll see how good Joe Girardi really was
Atlanta - Bobby Cox celebrates his 100 birthday.
Washington - Good luck, Dmitri

x- St. Louis - They will be tougher this year in the regular season.
Milwaukee - I want to believe it, but I shouldn't.
Houston - The Carlos Lee contract was stupid.
Chicago - Don't believe the hype, the Cubs suck.
Cincinnati - A lot of strikeouts in this lineup.
Pittsburgh - At least they have a beautiful stadium.

x - San Diego - They squeak it out again.
Los Angeles -Nomar drops off again
Arizona - Kirk Gibson will not make that much of a difference
San Francisco - The day he hits #756 will be a very sad day
Colorado - Who gives a bleep.

NL Champ - New York


World Series Detroit over New York

AL MVP - Vernon Wells, Toronto
NL MVP - Albert Pujols, St. Louis

AL Cy Young - Jeremy Bonderman, Detroit
NL Cy Young - Roy Oswalt, Houston


AL ROY - Delmon Young, Tampa Bay
NL ROY - Kevin Kouzmanoff, San Diego

FloridaTigers
03-31-2007, 10:33 PM
Seattle - Ozzie Guillen claims Nirvana was overrated.

Dats cool, as long as he doesn't say anything about Pearl Jam.

tiger337
03-31-2007, 10:40 PM
San Francisco - The day he hits #756 will be a very sad day


I will be sad when Dave Roberts gets his 756th hit too.

tiger337
03-31-2007, 10:50 PM
Here are my picks:

Boston*
New York*
Toronto
Tampa Bay
Baltimore

Detroit*
Minnesota
Cleveland
Chicago
Kansas City

Los Angeles*
Oakland
Texas
Seattle

New York*
Philadelphia*
Atlanta
Florida
Washington

St.Louis*
Milwaukee
Chicago
Houston
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh

Arizona*
Los Angeles
San Diego
San Francisco
Colorado

whitecapwendy
03-31-2007, 10:58 PM
Baltimore - Remember when they were really good?

I am reading Bill Freehan's "Behind the Mask" right now. So you might say I am experiencing when Baltimore was really good. I now know how other teams must have felt about the Tigers last year. How many times in that book did Bill say "Baltimore is now ____ games above .500. They can't keep this up, can they?"

monkeytargets37
03-31-2007, 11:02 PM
*Toronto
*New York
Boston
Tampa Bay
Baltimore

*Detroit
Cleveland
Chicago
Minnesota
Kansas City

*Los Angeles
Texas
Oakland
Seattle

Philadelphia*
New York*
Atlanta
Florida
Washington

St Louis*
Chicago
Houston
Milwaukee
Cincinnatti
Pittsburgh

Los Angeles*
San Diego
Colorado
Arizona
San Francisco

FloridaTigers
03-31-2007, 11:20 PM
I am reading Bill Freehan's "Behind the Mask" right now. So you might say I am experiencing when Baltimore was really good. I now know how other teams must have felt about the Tigers last year. How many times in that book did Bill say "Baltimore is now ____ games above .500. They can't keep this up, can they?"

I'm reading "Behind the Mask" too. Great book so far. Its kind of a downer knowing the Tigers had no chance, but that the Mets creamed the O's in the World Series makes up for it.

iceteebone
03-31-2007, 11:35 PM
Detroit*
Cleveland*
Chicago
Minnesota
Kansas City

Boston*
New York
Toronto
Baltimore
Tampa

Anaheim*
Texas
Seattle
Oakland

New York*
Philadelphia
Florida
Atlanta
Washington

St. Louis
Milwaukee
Chicago
Houston
Pittsburgh
Cincinati

San Diego*
Los Angeles*
Arizona
Colorado

The nl wildcard imo should be wide open. i believe philadelphia, florida, milwaukee, arizona, and even chicago have legitiment shots at it. i have chose philly the last couple years to make the playoffs and they never do, so i went with LA because they have the experience.

TheCouga
04-01-2007, 12:08 AM
AL East:
x-Boston 101-61
x-NY Yankees 91-71
Toronto 88-74
Baltimore 73-89
Tampa Bay 68-94

Notes: The Yankees' pitching rotation is incredibly thin this year, and probably can not absorb a major injury to their aging core of starters, although the offense is still poised to score more runs than anyone else in baseball except for maybe the Blue Jays. The Red Sox should be better with the out-avoiding batting skills of JD Drew, and Daisuke. I really think this is the best division in baseball, despite the hype the Central is getting right now. The Red Sox, the Blue Jays, and the Yankees all could win this division, but I think Boston has the best chance of it this year.

AL Central:
x-Detroit 93-59
Cleveland 86-76
Chicago White Sox 85-77
Minnesota 82-80
Kansas City 67-95

Notes: The pitching-strong AL Central is also a hard one to predict. Not 3, but 4 teams could possibly win it this year. I think the Twins will have the toughest time out of these four. Their awesome bullpen will be worked to death from the lack of experienced starters in the rotation. The White Sox main players are at the stage of decline in their careers, and I think out of Dye, Thome and Konerko one or two are unlikely to repeat last year's performances, and neither are likely to improve. And I do not think the Sox pitching will ever come close to their 2005 numbers. The Royals will be a little better this year, but their bullpen still has major problems. The Tigers' loss of Rogers this year is not likely to hurt the team any more than the loss of Maroth last year. The Tigers were the only team in the Central to add a major bat to their lineup this year. I also think that quite a few of the Tigers' hitters underperformed last year as well. Hopefully Sheffield and a new hitting coach can coax a little more patience at the plate from hitters like Pudge and Magglio. And hopefully Casey is disposed of soon to make room for Shelton. I don't think Verlander's sophmore slump is going to be as bad as some fear it will be.

AL West:
x-Anaheim 87-75
Oakland 82-80
Texas 78-84
Seattle 72-90

Notes: With Seattle and Texas going nowhere fast, and with Oakland cutting payroll, this division will likely go to the Angels as long as the DL doesn't do another number on their starting rotation.

NL East:

x-NY Mets 104-58
x-Philadelphia 94-68
Atlanta 83-79
Florida 78-84
Washington 44-118

Notes: The Mets are clearly the best team in the NL on paper. Washington clearly the worst. I think Phildelphia finally has the pitching to take the NL wildcard this year, and be the second best team in the NL as well. The Marlins have good young...well...everything. I think they have a good chance to be tough in the future, but not this year.

NL Central:

x-Milwaukee 85-77
Houston 84-78
St. Louis 81-81
Chicago 77-85
Cincinatti 75-87
Pittsburgh 68-94

Notes: Milwaukee has a lot of players who are likely to improve upon last year's performance. Granted half the team actually stays off the DL this year, that is likely to happen. St. Louis is going to have trouble with their pitching rotation, and their offense hasn't improved at all. The Cubs threw a lot of money away this season on stopgaps. But it's still not going to net them a winning season. I think Houston and Milwauke actually match up fairly well, but Milwaukee has the edge because of their depth at many positions.

NL West:
x-Arizona 89-73
San Diego 84-78
Los Angeles 83-79
Colarado 75-87
San Fransisco 73-89

Notes: The move to PetCo park will do Wells and Maddux well. The Padres' pitching staff is second to none in the NL. But their offense is pretty much filled with question marks. Arizona possibly has the best crop of young position players in all of baseball, and they will ride this to a division title. The Rockies continue to do little in the way of improvement. The Giants are going to suck.

Al Champs: Detroit
NL Champs: NY Mets

World Series: Detroit

AL MVP: Manny Ramirez
NL MVP: David Wright

AL CY: Roy Halladay
NL CY: Ben Sheets

AL ROY: Alex Gordon
NL ROY: Kevin Kozumanoff

DET Mr Malefic
04-01-2007, 12:14 AM
Here are my picks:

Boston*
Toronto*
New York
Baltimore
Tampa Bay

Detroit*
Cleveland
Chicago
Minnesota
Kansas City

Los Angeles*
Texas
Oakland
Seattle

New York*
Philadelphia*
Atlanta
Florida
Washington

St.Louis*
Milwaukee
Chicago
Cincinnati
Houston
Pittsburgh

Arizona*
Los Angeles
San Diego
San Francisco
Colorado

jadefalcon
04-01-2007, 12:37 AM
New York*: Hate them, but they win no matter what. Score 1000 runs even w/o Sheff.
Toronto*: Halladay and Burnett are a deadly 1-2 punch, and offense is a deadly 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 punch (sorry, Royce).
Boston: Starters are overrated, Papelbon has a down year (1.50 era, 35 saves), Matsuzaka is next Freddy Garcia (more K's, more BB's), offense pretty good though.
Tampa Bay: Most dynamic OF in baseball and will be the best next year. Kazmir stays healthy and carries the team to fourth place (some help for the man, please?).
Baltimore: They really can't pitch, regardless of the efforts of Bedard, Chris Ray, and Jamie Walker, and Daniel Cabrera still can't throw strikes. Tejada traded at break, and team belongs to Markakis and Roberts.

Detroit*: Tigers play with a purpose all year long. Pitching a little less than last year, but offense is much better. Sheff, Maggs, and Monroe all drive in 100 (Inge and Guillen come close). Bondo and Verlander get 200 K's. Tigers punk the rest of the division and dominate the league (a la '68 and '84 :grin:).
Cleveland: Bullpen better, but not enough. Grady crashes into one too many walls and misses half of season. Sabathia strains a hamstring at the buffet table, and the injury lingers and misses 10-12 starts. Paul Byrd stinks, and Jeremy Sowers is not sub-4.00 era good.
Minnesota: Santana same, but fewer wins, rest of rotation is pitiful and is replaced by rookies who struggle but pitch better. The pirhannas combine to hit .217 over the course of the season. M and M boys fail to repeat 2006 seasons. Mauer misses final month with leg injury.
Chicago: Trading Garcia was really dumb, and Chicago really misses him. Second half of 2006 continues for Contreras and Buerhle, and Garland wins 18 games with a era over 5.00. Bullpen throws hard, but not over the plate, and Dye regresses. Darin Erstad is an out in that lineup, but keeps his job because he once hit like .398 or something 8 years ago.
Kansas City: Alex Gordon goes .300/30/100 all over the AL. Gil Meche goes 5.67era/6-19/.310 opp avg all over the AL. Starters and bullpen stink. Grinke and Hochever (2 CG's late in season) are only bright spots on staff.

LA Angels of Anaheim*: Pitching is awesome, and so is Vladiator. Lineup gets a boost when they trade for Tejada and part with Kendrik and Santana (Nick Adenhart takes place in rotation).
Oakland: Harden and Haren form one of the most formidible 1-2 punches in AL. Swisher, Piazza, and Chavez provide the offense, but aren't enough as bullpen (Street) struggles.
Seattle: Hernandez challenges for Cy Young and finishes second to Santana for the strikeout title. Ichiro resigns and scores 130+ runs as Beltre, Sexson, Ibanez, and Guillen earn their pay.
Texas: They mash, but don't pitch (surprise!). Tex traded at deadline (to Tigers perhaps???). Worst outfield in AL, and Eric Gagne does not return to form.

Atlanta*: Offense will score a lot of runs, just like last year, and the bullpen will be top 3 in the NL, unlike last year. Smoltz leads the rotation and wins Cy Young.
Philadelphia*: Best offense in the NL matched up with a deep rotation. Bullpen scuffles, but Garcia, Myers, and Hamels shine.
New York: No pitching, big problem. Reyes and Wright take a step back, and Beltran and Delgado continue to mash. Rotation struggles because starters are either way too old or way too inexperienced to lead the team.
Florida: Youngsters have sophmore slumps, and Cabrera nearly wins triple crown.
Washinton: They are very, very bad.

Chicago*: My heart is telling me that their pitching will keep them out of the playoffs, but my head is telling me that their offense and poor play from division rivals will get them into the playoffs. My head is smarting than my heart, so I'll agree with my head. Zambrano wins 20 while Lee, Ramirez, and Soriano chase 40 homers.
Houston: Lee hits 40+ homers with the short porch, Berkman is Berkman, and Oswalt and Jennings sparkle in rotation. Clemens joins them in June, and calls it quits after the season while playing with his son, a September call-up.
Cincinatti: Offense isn't nearly as good as in the past, but rotation is much better. Harang, Arroyo, and Bailey all win 15+ games and post era's under 4.00.
St.Louis: Pujols and Carpenter get no help, and Cards show that WS was a fluke. Buck and McCarver cry and refuse to broadcast postseason; baseball fans across the world rejoice.
Milwakee: Hall, little Cec, and Weeks hit like madmen, but Sheets misses too many starts for them to win the division.
Pittsburgh: Lose a bunch of games again, but pitchers progress, Bay makes all-star team, and younger hitters (Laroche, Sanchez, Paulino, McCutchen) have good seasons too. Pirates become 2008's sexy sleeper team because of young pitchers and a divison that fails to improve.

LA*: Steady, ineffective veterans replaced by spunky, talented youngsters. Both bullpen and rotation lead NL in era and K's.
San Diego: Pichting is suberb (Peavy and Young win 16+ apiece). Hoffman saves 30+ games. Adrian Gonzalez becomes an elite hitter in NL, but Dodgers are too strong.
Arizona: Young kids struggle early, shine late to give hope for next year. Webb and Unit pitch well, but not well enough. Bullpen and Livan Hernandez don't help too much either.
San Francisco: Zito and Cain win 15+ games, Bonds hits 30+ homers, and the rest of the team doesn't do too much to help
Colorado: Back to the Rox of old...all hit, no pitch. Although Jason Hirsch shines in the rotation.

Tigers beat Toronto in 4
Yankees beat Angels in 5
Phillies beat Dodgers in 5
Cubs beat Braves in 4

Tigers beat Yankees in 4 (had enough, New York?)
Cubs beat Phillies in 6

Tigers beat Cubbies in 5 (much to the chagrin of ESPN and Jim Belushi)...Grandy shines against hometown team

AL MVP: A-Rod (booed viciously, moves to NL)
NL MVP: Andruw Jones

AL CY: Halladay
NL CY: Smoltz

AL ROY: Alex Gordon
NL ROY: Homer Bailey

Timberwolf
04-01-2007, 01:46 AM
ere are my picks for 2007:

AMERICAN LEAGUE

AL Central
Tigers -- They have been there, done that. They will be hungry after a bad WS experience. I love their pitching.
Twins -- They will be competitive and fun to watch, but it will be too little too late. Perkins and Garza will have ups and downs. Look for 2008 to win it all.
Indians -- The media loves that team. They have the talent, but they don't play defense and they don't play smart. They have no leadership and they don't play with sense of emotion.
White Sox -- They just suck.
Royals -- They will improve, but it will take several years.

AL East:
Yankees -- They will win since the division stinks, but they will not win a championship
Red Sox -- Boston's starting rotation is overrated
Blue Jays -- Toronto has hitting, but no pitching. Halladay can't pitch everday
Orioles -- Good talent, but the manager is a joke
D-Rays -- This team has regressed under Joe Maddon, who is way over his head.

AL West:
Angels --- Great pitching and their offense will get better.
A's -- Great pitching, but no offense.
Rangers -- Your sleeper. I love Ron Washington and I wish him well as a Rangers manager. I think he can get the most out of that team, but for them to make the playoffs, they need two pitchers who can bring it every start.
Mariners -- Another sleeper, but not crazy about their starting rotation.

AL Wild Card:
Twins will be in the mix, but Oakland wins it.

NL East:
Braves -- I will never count em out. Never as long as Cox and Schuerholz are around.
Mets -- I think they will be okay, but they peaked last year. Their pitching will doom em.
Phillies -- Not crazy about their pitching and they need to win when it counts. Ryan Howard can't carry them everyday.
Marlins -- I think they will regressed
Nationals -- They just stink. Just look at their rotation

NL Central:
Cardinals -- Why would anyone doubt em?
Astros -- I am not crazy about their pitching
Brewers -- Not a Ned Yost fan
Pirates -- Good pitching, but no offense
Cubs -- They stiink
Reds -- Great offense, but no pitching.

NL West:
Dodgers -- Great mix of young talent and vets. Good pitching
Padres -- Good pitching, but no offense. Bud Black won't change that as their new managers
D-Backs -- Good young talent, but they need to know how to win.
Rockies -- They stink
Giants -- They are old and they stink.

NL Wild Card:
Go with the Padres because of their pitching.

WORLD SERIES
Angels over Dodgers in 6

POST SEASON AWARDS
AMERICAN LEAGUE
MVP: Joe Mauer
CY YOUNG: Johan Santana
ROY: Dice-K
NATIONAL LEAGUE
MVP: Ryan Howard
CY YOUNG: Jake Peavy
ROY: Chris Young

First Manager Fired:
Eric Wedge

DaYooperASBDT
04-01-2007, 11:16 AM
Boston
Toronto - WC
New York
Tampa Bay
Baltimore

Detroit
Minnesota
Chicago
Cleveland
Kansas City

Los Angeles
Oakland
Texas
Seattle

New York
Philadelphia - WC
Florida
Atlanta
Washington

Milwaukee
St. Louis
Chicago
Houston
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh

San Diego
Arizona
Los Angeles
Colorado
San Francisco

AL MVP: Vlaimir Guerrero
NL MVP: Carlos Beltran

AL Cy Young: Jeremy Bonderman
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb

ROY's: Dice-K and Kevin Kouzmanoff

jackson_cannery
04-01-2007, 11:59 AM
*New York
Toronto
Boston
Baltimore
Tampa

*Detroit
*Chicago
Minnesota
Kansas City
Cleveland

*LAAoA
Texas
Oakland
Seattle

-------

*Atlanta
*Philadelphia
New York
Florida
Washington

*St. Louis
Milwaukee
Houston
Pittsburgh
Chicago
Cincinatti

*LA
San Diego
Arizona
Colorado
SF




Seattle - Ozzie Guillen claims Nirvana was overrated.


They were.

Edman85
04-01-2007, 12:05 PM
Yankees
Red Sox*
Blue Jays
Devil Rays
Orioles

The Devil Rays are a couple of big injuries and a pitching revelation away from making a move.


Tigers
Indians
Twins
White Sox
Royals

Honestly, I think the division takes a step back. The White Sox are a year older and look to be on the decline. The Twins: Johan and pray for rain.

Angels
Rangers
A's
Mariners

Angels have great young talent that is set to bloom this year. Rangers need pitching, A's have holes in their lineup, and the Mariners are terrible.

Phillies
Mets
Braves
Marlins




Nationals

Brewers
Cardinals
Reds
Cubs
Astros
Pirates

Padres
D-Backs*
Rockies
Dodgers
Giants

Motor City Sonics
04-01-2007, 01:23 PM
Detroit*
Cleveland*
Chicago
Minnesota
Kansas City

Boston*
New York
Toronto
Baltimore
Tampa

Anaheim*
Texas
Seattle
Oakland

New York*
Philadelphia
Florida
Atlanta
Washington

St. Louis
Milwaukee
Chicago
Houston
Pittsburgh
Cincinati

San Diego*
Los Angeles*
Arizona
Colorado

The nl wildcard imo should be wide open. i believe philadelphia, florida, milwaukee, arizona, and even chicago have legitiment shots at it. i have chose philly the last couple years to make the playoffs and they never do, so i went with LA because they have the experience.



Your prediction for the AL West is completely ridiculous.

Byrne
04-01-2007, 02:44 PM
Toronto
New York
Boston
Baltimore
Tampa Bay

Detroit
Minnesota
Cleveland
Chicago
Kansas City

Los Angeles
Texas
Oakland
Seattle

New York
Philadelphia
Atlanta
Florida
Washington

St.Louis
Milwaukee
Chicago
Cincinnati
Houston
Pittsburgh

Los Angeles
San Diego
Arizona
San Fransico
Colorado

You heard it here first: 2007 is the year of the Blue Jay. I'm predicting the Jays take the AL East in '07. Roy Halladay and A. J. Burnett will be the best 1-2 punch in baseball and Gustavo Chacin, Tomo Ohka, and Josh Towers have unexpectedly solid campaigns with Victor Zambrano and B. J. Ryan playing big roles out of the bullpen. Vernon Wells earns the AL MVP and Rios, Wells, Glaus, and Thomas all hit 30+ HRs.

The Tigers take the AL Central and the Chicago White Sox lose 90 games. Cleveland's offense declines from their 2006 numbers and the bullpen continues to faulter. Minnesota just narrowly missess a heated race for the Wild Card against the Yankees.

Angels take the AL West without breaking a sweat.

chasfh
04-01-2007, 02:53 PM
Well, looks like I'm going to stick out like a sore thumb on this one:

American League

East W L Pct GB
BOS 96 66 .593
NYA 92 70 .568 4
TBA 87 75 .537 9
BAL 74 88 .457 22
TOR 71 91 .438 25

Central W L Pct GB
CLE 91 71 .562
DET 90 72 .556 1
MIN 85 77 .525 6
KCA 67 95 .414 24
CHA 67 95 .414 24

West W L Pct GB
LAA 87 75 .537
OAK 82 80 .506 5
TEX 75 87 .463 12
SEA 70 92 .432 17

National League

East W L Pct GB
ATL 87 75 .537
PHI 84 78 .519 3
NYN 80 82 .494 7
FLO 74 88 .457 13
WAS 74 88 .457 13

Central W L Pct GB
MIL 88 74 .543
PIT 81 81 .500 7
STL 80 82 .494 8
CHN 80 82 .494 8
HOU 78 84 .481 10
CIN 71 91 .438 17

West W L Pct GB
SDN 91 71 .562
LAN 86 76 .531 5
SFN 85 77 .525 6
ARI 84 78 .519 7
COL 73 89 .451 18



I'm not going to predict playoff winners because trying to pick winners of short series six or seven months in advance is like flipping a coin.

FloridaTigers
04-01-2007, 03:06 PM
I don't do predictions. I'm always wrong and usually biased.

djhutch
04-01-2007, 03:48 PM
A-L
Boston - Daisuke makes a big difference.
Toronto - Burnett stays healthy.
New York - Not enough pitching. A-Rod traded.
Tampa Bay - Finally say goodbye to the cellar.
Baltimore


Detroit Depth does the trick.
Minnesota - Cleveland - Chicago: Not enough pitching.
Kansas City - Better, but come on.

Texas - Teixeira: MVP
L-A
Oakland
Seattle

N-L
New York
Philadelphia
Atlanta
Florida
Washington

Chicago - Soriano: MVP Wood: Closer by July.
Milwaukee
Houston
St.Louis
Pittsburgh

Los Angeles
San Diego
Arizona
San Fransisco
Colorado

Tigers over Toronto.
Boston over Texas
Tigers over Boston.

Mets over Cubs.
Phillies over Dodgers.
Mets over Phillies.

Tigers over Mets.

Lbh24
04-01-2007, 03:57 PM
A-L
Boston - Daisuke makes a big difference.
Toronto - Burnett stays healthy.
New York - Not enough pitching. A-Rod traded.
Tampa Bay - Finally say goodbye to the cellar.
Baltimore


Detroit Depth does the trick.
Minnesota - Cleveland - Chicago: Not enough pitching.
Kansas City - Better, but come on.

Texas - Teixeira: MVP
L-A
Oakland
Seattle

N-L
New York
Philadelphia
Atlanta
Florida
Washington

Chicago - Soriano: MVP Wood: Closer by July.
Milwaukee
Houston
St.Louis
Pittsburgh

Los Angeles
San Diego
Arizona
San Fransisco
Colorado

Tigers over Toronto.
Boston over Texas
Tigers over Boston.

Mets over Cubs.
Phillies over Dodgers.
Mets over Phillies.

Tigers over Mets.

Picking the Cubs to win the NL Central was pretty bold, but not as bold as your apparent prediction that the Reds will either be contracted or completely obliterated :classic:

Ron Burgandy
04-01-2007, 04:43 PM
Yankees*
Red Sox*
Devil Rays
Blue Jays
Orioles

Indians*
Twins
Tigers
White Sox
Royals

Rangers*
Angels
A's
Mariners

Phillies*
Braves
Mets
Marlins
Nationals

Brewers*
Cardinals
Cubs
Pirates
Astros
Reds

D-Backs*
Dodgers*
Padres
Rockies
Giants

wolverinefan
04-01-2007, 04:54 PM
New York
Toronto
Boston
Baltimore
Tampa Bay

Detroit
Cleveland(Wild Card)
Chicago
Minnesota
Kansas City


Anaheim
Texas
Oakland
Seattle


AL CHAMP- New York. Bleh.


New York
Florida
Philadelphia
Atlanta
Washington

St. Louis
Milwaukee(Wild Card)
Houston
Cincinnati
Chicago
Pittsburgh

San Diego
Los Angeles
Arizona
Colorado
San Francisco


NL Champ - New York


World Series New York Mets over New York Yankees

AL MVP - Vladimir Guerrero, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
NL MVP - David Wright- New York Mets

AL Cy Young - Johan Santa, Minnesota Twins
NL Cy Young - Jake Peavy- San Diego Padres


AL ROY - Delmon Young, Tampa Bay
NL ROY - Kevin Kouzmanoff, San Diego

ToledoTigerFan
04-01-2007, 05:54 PM
My guesses:
American League

New York
Toronto
Boston
Tampa Bay
Baltimore

Detroit
Cleveland(Wild Card)
Minnesota
Chicago(Ozzie fired at some point)
Kansas City

Texas
Seattle
Los Angeles
Oakland

AL Champ: Tigers(of course)
_____________________

National League

Philadelphia
Atlanta
New York
Florida
Washington

Cincinnati
St.Louis(Wild Card)
Milwaukee
Chicago
Houston
Pittsburgh

San Diego
Los Angeles
Arizona
San Francisco
Colorado

NL Champ: Philadelphia
_______________________

World Series: Detroit vs Philadelphia---Tigers in 6

Cult of Guillen
04-01-2007, 07:19 PM
American League

Boston
New York
Toronto
Baltimore
Tampa Bay

Detroit
Chicago (Wild Card)
Cleveland
Minnesota
Kansas City

Los Angeles
Oakland
Texas
Seattle

AL Champ: Tigers
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National League

Philadelphia
New York (Wild Card)
Atlanta
Florida
Washington

Houston
Chicago
Milwaukee
Cincinnati
St.Louis
Pittsburgh

Los Angeles
San Diego
Arizona
San Francisco
Colorado

NL Champ: Los Angeles

Tigers over Dodgers

tigerfanfromchicago
04-01-2007, 07:38 PM
AL:

New York
Boston
Toronto
Baltimore
Tampa

Detroit
Cleveland (Wild Card)
Minnesota
Chicago
Kansas City

Anaheim
Oakland
Texas
Seattle

AL Champs: Tigers

NL:

New York
Philadelphia
Atlanta
Florida
Washington

Milwaukee
St. Louis
Houston
Chicago
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati

Los Angeles
San Diego (Wild Card)
Arizona
San Francisco
Colorado

NL Champs: Mets

World Series: Tigers over Mets in 6

DaYooperASBDT
04-02-2007, 09:43 AM
Wow, Chuck, Blue Jays in last place!? That's a bold prediction.

Domino
04-02-2007, 09:47 AM
Well I dont have enough time to go through every division and predict the winners accurately right now. But I just have a feeling it's going to be a dogfight to make the playoffs. Many teams are majorly improved. Whether or not we make the playoffs will depend on two things in my mind (1) injuries and (2) pitching.

Ingefanclub
04-02-2007, 10:12 AM
1. Yanks 94-68
2. Bosox 94-68
3. Blue Jays 91-71
4. Baltimore 74-88
5. Tampa 68-94

1. Tigers 93-69
2. Indians 89-73
3. Sox 88-74
4. Twins 85-77
5. Royals 69-93

1. Angels 88-74
2. Oakland 84-78
3. Texas 78-84
4. Seattle 72-90

chasfh
04-02-2007, 10:26 AM
Wow, Chuck, Blue Jays in last place!? That's a bold prediction.

Sure, they have Big Hurt and Troy Glaus and Vernon Wells, and two of the better starters in the AL, but beyond that they have huge holes. Their corner outfielders are barely above AAA levels, and they have Royce Freaking Clayton starting at short. Their bench is so awful that Matt Stairs is the best thing to come off it. Their 3-5 starters are Moe, Larry and Curly. They've got a decent bullpen, but they're gonna get awful stretched as the season wears on.

Gregg Zaun and Aaron Hill are wild cards for them, but even if they far exceed their expectations, I don't see how they'll win even 80 games. No, I don't see good things for them.

DaYooperASBDT
04-02-2007, 10:53 AM
Well I dont have enough time to go through every division and predict the winners accurately right now. But I just have a feeling it's going to be a dogfight to make the playoffs. Many teams are majorly improved. Whether or not we make the playoffs will depend on two things in my mind (1) injuries and (2) pitching.We're all guessing, don't let anyone BS you into anything more than that! :wink:

TheCouga
04-02-2007, 11:01 AM
Sure, they have Big Hurt and Troy Glaus and Vernon Wells, and two of the better starters in the AL, but beyond that they have huge holes. Their corner outfielders are barely above AAA levels, and they have Royce Freaking Clayton starting at short. Their bench is so awful that Matt Stairs is the best thing to come off it. Their 3-5 starters are Moe, Larry and Curly. They've got a decent bullpen, but they're gonna get awful stretched as the season wears on.

Gregg Zaun and Aaron Hill are wild cards for them, but even if they far exceed their expectations, I don't see how they'll win even 80 games. No, I don't see good things for them.

There's also Alex Rios and Lyle Overbay. Rios and Reed Johnson are certainly not AAA level. Also, they have Adam Lind who may be ready to fill in for either of these two.

There's a very good chance that the Blue Jays will lead the league in slugging percentage this year. Also, they have the second best closer in the league, decent middle relief, and a potential Cy Young winner heading their rotation.

I'd be shocked if they had a losing season this year, even with major injuries.

Casimir
04-02-2007, 11:15 AM
AL East:
X-Boston
Toronto
New York -- It all ends harshly (and I'll say sadly) for Joe Torre.
Baltimore
Tampa Bay

AL Central: (3 teams with 90 wins)
X-Detroit
Y-Cleveland
Chicago
Minnesota
Kansas City

AL West:
X-Anaheim
Oakland
Seattle
Texas

NL East:
X-Philadelphia
Y-New York
Atlanta
Florida
Montrashington

NL Central: (a completely jumbled mess after 1st place)
X-Houston
Milwaukee
Cincinnati
St. Louis -- Not bitter, just don't see good things for them.
Pittsburgh
Chicago

NL West: (again, a lot of guesswork here)
X-Los Angeles
Arizona
San Diego
San Francisco
Colorado

World Series: Detroit over Philadelphia (although some dude named Howard is named series MVP).

AL MVP: David Ortiz
NL MVP: Ryan Howard

AL Cy Young: Johan Santana
NL Cy Young: Ben Sheets

AL ROY: Alex Gordon
NL ROY: Tony Gwynn, Jr.

Casimir
04-02-2007, 11:20 AM
I'm not going to predict playoff winners because trying to pick winners of short series six or seven months in advance is like flipping a coin.

True. More and more I'm losing the esteem for WS winners that I used to hold for them because of this.

I suppose some of it may be some bitterness after last season's WS, but lost in the series is the fact that the Tigers still ended the regular and postseason with a better record than the Cards as well as a 4-4 split with them.

But I think more of it is exactly what you pointed out (and what's been pointed out by a few others here before). A hot/cold week or 3 shouldn't devalue 6 months of work.

chasfh
04-02-2007, 11:41 AM
Wow, huge egg on my face. I made an egregious error in my calculations on standings, and now that I have fixed it, there are a number of significant changes, including the predicted record of the Toronto Blue Jays (on whom I wasted valuable time defending a prediction of poor performance).

Here are my new standings predictions. Those things I said about the Blue Jays? True to some degree, but the effect of the negatives won't be as dramatic as all that:

American League

East W L Pct GB
NYA 93 69 .574
BOS 90 71 .562 3
TOR 80 82 .494 13
TBA 78 84 .481 15
BAL 76 86 .469 17

Central W L Pct GB
CLE 91 71 .562
MIN 87 75 .537 4
DET 85 77 .525 6
CHA 71 91 .438 20
KCA 66 96 .407 25

West W L Pct GB
LAA 86 76 .531
TEX 80 82 .494 6
OAK 79 83 .488 7
SEA 72 90 .444 14

National League

East W L Pct GB
NYN 86 76 .531
PHI 85 77 .525 1
ATL 81 81 .500 5
FLO 79 83 .488 7
WAS 70 92 .432 16

Central W L Pct GB
MIL 86 76 .531
STL 83 79 .512 3
CHN 82 80 .506 4
HOU 79 83 .488 7
PIT 76 86 .469 10
CIN 74 88 .457 12

West W L Pct GB
ARI 87 75 .537
SDN 85 77 .525 2
LAN 84 78 .519 3
SFN 80 82 .494 7
COL 79 83 .488 8

tiger337
04-02-2007, 11:44 AM
I suppose some of it may be some bitterness after last season's WS, but lost in the series is the fact that the Tigers still ended the regular and postseason with a better record than the Cards as well as a 4-4 split with them.



A Cardinal fan might point out that the Cardinals won 100 games in 2004 and 2005 without a World Series win. So, in a way, they deserved it even though they were sub-par in 2006. It all comes back to my definition of a successful team - a perennial contender. If a team does that they will get into the post-season a good number of times and have have a good shot at eventually winning the post-season crapshoot.

DaYooperASBDT
04-02-2007, 11:49 AM
Sure, they have Big Hurt and Troy Glaus and Vernon Wells, and two of the better starters in the AL, but beyond that they have huge holes. Their corner outfielders are barely above AAA levels, and they have Royce Freaking Clayton starting at short. Their bench is so awful that Matt Stairs is the best thing to come off it. Their 3-5 starters are Moe, Larry and Curly. They've got a decent bullpen, but they're gonna get awful stretched as the season wears on.

Gregg Zaun and Aaron Hill are wild cards for them, but even if they far exceed their expectations, I don't see how they'll win even 80 games. No, I don't see good things for them.I like Overbay, and I think Reed Johnson (high OBP) and Alex Rios will make significant contributions to the offense in 2007. Zahn is decent at catcher, but he is getting older. They will need better pitching from Towers and Chacin to pass up some teams, though.

TheCouga
04-02-2007, 12:01 PM
Wow, huge egg on my face. I made an egregious error in my calculations on standings, and now that I have fixed it, there are a number of significant changes, including the predicted record of the Toronto Blue Jays (on whom I wasted valuable time defending a prediction of poor performance).

Here are my new standings predictions. Those things I said about the Blue Jays? True to some degree, but the effect of the negatives won't be as dramatic as all that:

American League

East W L Pct GB
NYA 93 69 .574
BOS 90 71 .562 3
TOR 80 82 .494 13
TBA 78 84 .481 15
BAL 76 86 .469 17

Central W L Pct GB
CLE 91 71 .562
MIN 87 75 .537 4
DET 85 77 .525 6
CHA 71 91 .438 20
KCA 66 96 .407 25

West W L Pct GB
LAA 86 76 .531
TEX 80 82 .494 6
OAK 79 83 .488 7
SEA 72 90 .444 14

National League

East W L Pct GB
NYN 86 76 .531
PHI 85 77 .525 1
ATL 81 81 .500 5
FLO 79 83 .488 7
WAS 70 92 .432 16

Central W L Pct GB
MIL 86 76 .531
STL 83 79 .512 3
CHN 82 80 .506 4
HOU 79 83 .488 7
PIT 76 86 .469 10
CIN 74 88 .457 12

West W L Pct GB
ARI 87 75 .537
SDN 85 77 .525 2
LAN 84 78 .519 3
SFN 80 82 .494 7
COL 79 83 .488 8


That makes more sense. So who gets the NL wild card?

And if you are willing to share, how did you come to these conclusions. Did you run a simulation based on a formula?

In any event, I like your predictions.

Casimir
04-02-2007, 02:03 PM
A Cardinal fan might point out that the Cardinals won 100 games in 2004 and 2005 without a World Series win. So, in a way, they deserved it even though they were sub-par in 2006. It all comes back to my definition of a successful team - a perennial contender. If a team does that they will get into the post-season a good number of times and have have a good shot at eventually winning the post-season crapshoot.

Can't argue with that, especially when you are looking at success as beyond a single season.

Tigers2156
04-02-2007, 02:49 PM
Tigers will make above 500, but play offs without Rogers? hard to imagine.

Tigers2156
04-02-2007, 02:50 PM
Can't argue with that, especially when you are looking at success as beyond a single season.


Yeah ya can. Cards play in a weaker division, alot easier to get 100 wins when ya get lots of chances against weak teams.

DET Mr Malefic
04-03-2007, 04:16 AM
There's also Alex Rios and Lyle Overbay. Rios and Reed Johnson are certainly not AAA level. Also, they have Adam Lind who may be ready to fill in for either of these two.

There's a very good chance that the Blue Jays will lead the league in slugging percentage this year. Also, they have the second best closer in the league, decent middle relief, and a potential Cy Young winner heading their rotation.

I'd be shocked if they had a losing season this year, even with major injuries.

I'm with you here. I think the Jays are a more dangerous team than Detroit is. I think they probably have less margin for error due to lesser overall organizational depth, but I see their lineup as being very good 1-8 (assuming Zaun comes through), 2 very good starters, 1 good starter, a great closer, and a slew of bullpen arms that while struggling to put together a complete season, have had stretches of MLB success. I'm certainly a buyer on Blue Jay Kool Aid.

chasfh
04-03-2007, 07:32 PM
That makes more sense. So who gets the NL wild card?

Well, from the looks of this, either Philadelphia or San Diego. I can't predict which of two 85-win teams playing each other would win six months in advance. Anything can happen in a one-game playoff.

And if you are willing to share, how did you come to these conclusions. Did you run a simulation based on a formula?

In any event, I like your predictions.

No simulations -- I use VORP normalized to league averages. I like the results, too -- especially the White Sox part.

"VORP" -- doesn't that sound like a Danish expletive or something?

Casimir
04-03-2007, 07:36 PM
"VORP" -- doesn't that sound like a Danish expletive or something?

If that's the case, that's probably the only profane term I didn't use while trying to resolve my DirectTV debacle yesterday.