Ways to know people are not Bandwagon Tigers fans....

[Crazy_leo]

First let me introduce myself. Yes, I am a newbie here. However, I am a long time Tigers fan. I remember growing up listening to Ernie Harwell on the radio and I my all time favorite Tigers player still to this day is Alan Trammell (no matter what people say about his coaching.)

However, with all the new people claiming to be Tigers fans what do you feel is the easiest way to find the bandwagoners.

My Top 10 to determine a person is not on the bandwagon
1. Person has or had a Bobby Higginson or Damion Easley Jersey
2. Still has ticket stubs to the 2003 season
3. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 2003
4. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 1984
5. Knows the name Randy Smith and the evil he unleashed upon this organization
6. Been to multiple games at old Tigers Stadium and knows they will cry when the stadium meets its end
7. Is still somewhat mad about the Doyle Alexander trade.
8. Has a rookie card from either Sweet Lou, Alan Trammell, Gibby or Jack Morris.
9. Mad at the baseball Hall of fame for not have Alan Trammell in it.
10. Had hope even after the 2003 season.

[slim pickens]

.......they make these threads as thier first post........:lick:

[MotownWebGuy]

Real Tiger fans posted here before 2006! Welcome anyway... :wink:

[Flame 103]

haha.

[estrepe1]

Why would someone be mad about the Doyle Alexander trade? Doyle helped them win the division that season. There was no guarantee Smoltz would even become what he did if he stayed with the Tigers.

[The G Man]

Real Tiger fans posted here before 2006! Welcome anyway... :wink:


BURN!!!

[Crazy_leo]

Just found the board today.

[The G Man]

Why would someone be mad about the Doyle Alexander trade? Doyle helped them win the division that season. There was no guarantee Smoltz would even become what he did if he stayed with the Tigers.

It's called retrospect.

What's that saying about hindsight...

[Domino]

#2, 3, 4, 6, 8 (autographed baseballs count), 10 apply to me. I don't think 9 is legit Tram is not a hall of fame player IMHO.

[Corky]

It's called retrospect.

What's that saying about hindsight...


Tower of Power put it as: "Hindsight is foresight that happened too late."

I always liked that version.

[slim pickens]

#2, 3, 4, 6, 8 (autographed baseballs count), 10 apply to me. I don't think 9 is legit Tram is not a hall of fame player IMHO.
You dont know the name Randy Smith and "the evil he unleashed upon this orginization"?

[Kdoogie24]

#1 - Own a Bobby Higginson Jersey

check

[MelissaG915]

the ultimate sign of not being a bandwagon fan? the desire not to have to prove yourself to others. We know who we are, we've shared beers, customized shotglasses and analysis in a stadium holding 12,000 people.

[Domino]

You dont know the name Randy Smith and "the evil he unleashed upon this orginization"?

I know he was the GM blamed for the bad years but a lot those players just didn't turn out and fulfill their potential. I wouldn't call that unleashing "evil upon an organization".

[chasfh]

This is a good thread-starter, leo. Nice job.

[Tigercub33]

the ultimate sign of not being a bandwagon fan? the desire not to have to prove yourself to others. We know who we are, we've shared beers, customized shotglasses and analysis in a stadium holding 12,000 people.


Very well put!

I was at a Royals/Tigers game last year in KC. For game #2 of the Double Header I think there was about 2,500 people there. Talk about true fans (or people with nothing else to do on a crappy Sunday)

[Moonlight Graham]

.......they make these threads as thier first post........:lick: Not a real Tiger fan.

[travis]

My Top 10 to determine a person is not on the bandwagon
1. Person has or had a Bobby Higginson or Damion Easley Jersey
2. Still has ticket stubs to the 2003 season
3. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 2003
4. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 1984
5. Knows the name Randy Smith and the evil he unleashed upon this organization
6. Been to multiple games at old Tigers Stadium and knows they will cry when the stadium meets its end
7. Is still somewhat mad about the Doyle Alexander trade.
8. Has a rookie card from either Sweet Lou, Alan Trammell, Gibby or Jack Morris.
9. Mad at the baseball Hall of fame for not have Alan Trammell in it.
10. Had hope even after the 2003 season.

Must administer this test on myself:

1. Have never owned a jersey because I don't like the way they look or feel when I'm not on the field playing.
2. Only stub I have saved to this point is game 4 against the Yankees. I'll probably throw that out too, as I don't tend to keep any memoribilia. I did go to a couple games in 2003 though.
3. Check.
4. Check.
5. Check (does Rod Allen count...).
6. Check on the first part. Doubt I'll cry as I was never really attached to it.
7. This trade worked the way it was supposed to for both parties and I will never be upset about it until someone comes up with a what if machine to show me the multiple WS Smoltz would have won with the Tigers.
8. Haven't had any cards since Junior High. I'm just very irresponsible.
9. At least let Tram and Whitaker in as a tandem...
10. I made a bet with my brother during that season that the Tigers would win the World series by 2007. Does that count?

[travis]

the ultimate sign of not being a bandwagon fan? the desire not to have to prove yourself to others. We know who we are, we've shared beers, customized shotglasses and analysis in a stadium holding 12,000 people.

I fail this test miserably. I am not a true fan...

[Rocko2]

My Top 10 to determine a person is not on the bandwagon
1. Person has or had a Bobby Higginson or Damion Easley Jersey

Pfft, I wouldn't own one of theirs even then.

2. Still has ticket stubs to the 2003 season

I have every ticket to every sporting event and concert I've been to, including 21 in 2003.

3. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 2003

No problem.

4. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 1984

Very easy.

5. Knows the name Randy Smith and the evil he unleashed upon this organization

Know the name, not sure all the evil doing is his fault.

6. Been to multiple games at old Tigers Stadium and knows they will cry when the stadium meets its end

Have a nice picture of Kirk Gibson in right field. Won't cry. I'm always open to change. The old girl served her purpose. Give her a proper burial and let's move on already.

7. Is still somewhat mad about the Doyle Alexander trade.

No way to predict what Smoltz would do.

8. Has a rookie card from either Sweet Lou, Alan Trammell, Gibby or Jack Morris.

All 3.

9. Mad at the baseball Hall of fame for not have Alan Trammell in it.

Would like to see him there, just don't think he has the numbers. I'm more upset Jack Morris isn't in the hall of fame.

10. Had hope even after the 2003 season.

For a few games anyways.

[Biff Mayhem]

Somehow I think all of you who are piling on the guy need to realize that his first post had a bit of humor injected into it rather than an air of entitlement.

[IdahoBert]

Just found the board today.Welcome Leo!

[RedRamage]

I know he was the GM blamed for the bad years but a lot those players just didn't turn out and fulfill their potential. I wouldn't call that unleashing "evil upon an organization".
Don't you think, at some point, you need to call the GM bad if player after player after player he aquires turns out to just not fulfill his potential?

Who's really left on the Tigers roster from the Smith era? Inge, who's playing close to his original position, not the one Smith wanted him to play.

Infante, who's a back... a good back, but a backup none-the-less.

Santiago, who's on his second stint with the team and is a defensive backup player.

That's a pretty poor list.

During the Smith era, how many times with the did the team win a championship? Win the AL Pennant? Win the Division? Make the playoffs? Heck, how many times did they finish .500 or better? Still at Zero? -- okay, How many times did they finish with more than 70 wins? Ah, okay, we got more than zero there. (BTW, the answer is two.)

How many times did the Tigers have more than one All-Str while Smith was the GM? How many times would the Tigers have gone without an All-Star if note for the dumb "each team needs a rep" rule?

The Smith era was more than just a bit of bad luck with some players just not panning out. It was a mess top to bottom.

(On a side note, I've never been much of a Millen hater. I've been leaning towards him being a failure of late, but this pretty much cements my feeling that he's achieved pretty much the same success at Smith did with the Tigers. It's time for Ford to see what happens with you get rid of the guy who's ruled over it all and replace him with an experienced, competent GM.)

[CaliforniaDreaming]

I find it interesting that to be a true Tiger fan you have to be mad often.

[Buddha]

I find it interesting that to be a true Tiger fan you have to be mad often.

Screw you!:wink:

[Oblong]

you get sick when you hear the name Juan Gonzalez... followed by immense relief.

[CaliforniaDreaming]

Screw you!:wink:

Buddha has just proven himself to be the #1 Tiger fan!:mad:

[Domino]

Don't you think, at some point, you need to call the GM bad if player after player after player he aquires turns out to just not fulfill his potential?

Who's really left on the Tigers roster from the Smith era? Inge, who's playing close to his original position, not the one Smith wanted him to play.

Infante, who's a back... a good back, but a backup none-the-less.

Santiago, who's on his second stint with the team and is a defensive backup player.

That's a pretty poor list.

During the Smith era, how many times with the did the team win a championship? Win the AL Pennant? Win the Division? Make the playoffs? Heck, how many times did they finish .500 or better? Still at Zero? -- okay, How many times did they finish with more than 70 wins? Ah, okay, we got more than zero there. (BTW, the answer is two.)

How many times did the Tigers have more than one All-Str while Smith was the GM? How many times would the Tigers have gone without an All-Star if note for the dumb "each team needs a rep" rule?

The Smith era was more than just a bit of bad luck with some players just not panning out. It was a mess top to bottom.

(On a side note, I've never been much of a Millen hater. I've been leaning towards him being a failure of late, but this pretty much cements my feeling that he's achieved pretty much the same success at Smith did with the Tigers. It's time for Ford to see what happens with you get rid of the guy who's ruled over it all and replace him with an experienced, competent GM.)

Hey I'm not defending the guy, it was a mess. I just don't think it's all entirely his fault and I didn't see him "unleashing evil upon the organization". To me that's like it was purposely trying to wreck it, which I don't believe was the case.

[OldTimey]

Smith obviousley never drafted a guy as good as Zumaya, Verlander or Granderson. But he did acquire Inge, Infante, Monroe and Morath.

[Zakk_Wylde]

I disagree with #4. Simply knowing 5 players on the 1984 roster doesn't suffice. At a very minimum the entire typical starting lineup of the 1984 would be known by any REAL fan, and most would know their entire roster. RUSTY KUNTZ RULES!!!

I also completely disagree with #3, 5 is WAY too low of a figure, since, off the top of my head 9 of those 2003 Tigers are on our 2006 playoff roster (Bonderman, Robertson, Walker, Ledezma, Rodney, Inge, Monroe, Santiago, Infante), and several more were on the 2006 roster at some point during the regular season (ie Maroth, Spurling, Young). ANY fan, real or not, should be able to get #3. #3 should be re-worded, to 5 players that weren't on the roster at all in 2006, but were on the roster in 2003.

[IdahoBert]

you get sick when you hear the name Juan Gonzalez... followed by immense relief.I hated him for snubbing us, and I also feel a profound sense of relief and sweet revenge because he did.

[OldTimey]

If his extension started in 2001 then we'd have him for 2 more years.

[Rocko2]

"I disagree with #4. Simply knowing 5 players on the 1984 roster doesn't suffice. At a very minimum the entire typical starting lineup of the 1984 would be known by any REAL fan, and most would know their entire roster. RUSTY KUNTZ RULES!!!"

Good point! I would also add a rule that says you should be able to name about 5-10 of the 68' team, pending on your age.

[estrepe1]

Somehow I think all of you who are piling on the guy need to realize that his first post had a bit of humor injected into it rather than an air of entitlement.

It has a good bit of humor to it and is a good first post. Welcome to the board Leo.

I still don't think the Doyle Alexander trade was bad, but that is another argument for another day. Although I will say that travis stated my opinion on that trade.

[Tigercub33]

Somehow I think all of you who are piling on the guy need to realize that his first post had a bit of humor injected into it rather than an air of entitlement.

I thought his first post was pretty good. There was some obvious stuff he left out, but all in all, not bad.

Its one of the few times I have NOT piled on someone in a thread recently I think.

[The G Man]

I plan on actually arriving in a bandwagon.

WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?!?

http://www.gabbf.com/images/archives/wagon.jpg

[Brian]

How about if you can name the entire 2003 roster?

[FloridaTigers]

First let me introduce myself. Yes, I am a newbie here. However, I am a long time Tigers fan. I remember growing up listening to Ernie Harwell on the radio and I my all time favorite Tigers player still to this day is Alan Trammell (no matter what people say about his coaching.)

However, with all the new people claiming to be Tigers fans what do you feel is the easiest way to find the bandwagoners.

My Top 10 to determine a person is not on the bandwagon
1. Person has or had a Bobby Higginson or Damion Easley Jersey
2. Still has ticket stubs to the 2003 season
3. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 2003
4. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 1984
5. Knows the name Randy Smith and the evil he unleashed upon this organization
6. Been to multiple games at old Tigers Stadium and knows they will cry when the stadium meets its end
7. Is still somewhat mad about the Doyle Alexander trade.
8. Has a rookie card from either Sweet Lou, Alan Trammell, Gibby or Jack Morris.
9. Mad at the baseball Hall of fame for not have Alan Trammell in it.
10. Had hope even after the 2003 season.

Some of these are stupd reasons. Why would I even had consider owning a Higgy jersey? 2 and 6 can't apply, because I've never been to Detroit. Why would anyone be mad at the Doyle trade? It helped the Tigers in the post-season. Smoltz was going to be a no-one if he stayed here.

[Dawgs]

Good list leo. Dont let some of these fools arrogance get to you. Theres alot of self appointed thread police on this board.

[tigersfandm]

Does remembering Matt Nokes count as a non-bandwagoner?

[The G Man]

Does remembering Matt Nokes count as a non-bandwagoner?

ok...without looking...how many homers did he hit in '87?

[tigersfandm]

ok...without looking...how many homers did he hit in '87?

32... he was a monster in 87.

[lesgoblu02]

Hey I'm not defending the guy, it was a mess. I just don't think it's all entirely his fault and I didn't see him "unleashing evil upon the organization". To me that's like it was purposely trying to wreck it, which I don't believe was the case.


How do you feel about Matt Millen?

[The G Man]

Ok...and he may have won rookie of the year (I think he qualified as a rookie that year) if not for which player having a rediculous rookie year?

[Tigercub33]

Good list leo. Dont let some of these fools arrogance get to you. Theres alot of self appointed thread police on this board.

Who was being arrogant? It looked to me that this was one of the few threads on here where everyone was actually getting along.

[slim pickens]

Ok...and he may have won rookie of the year (I think he qualified as a rookie that year) if not for which player having a rediculous rookie year?
Mark Mcgwire

[Oblong]

87 had a juiced ball.

[Oblong]

Without looking it up, who made the final out in Randy Johnsno's no hitter against Detroit?

[The G Man]

Can I be captain of the thread police?

Naw...nevermind...I think I'll stick with being Mayor McCheese.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/Mayor_McCheese.jpg

[The G Man]

Without looking it up, who made the final out in Randy Johnsno's no hitter against Detroit?

Mike Heath...struck out on a high fastball.

[slim pickens]

Without looking it up, who made the final out in Randy Johnsno's no hitter against Detroit?
I will go with gary Ward, Cecil Feilder, or Tony Phillips.

[FloridaTigers]

Good list leo. Dont let some of these fools arrogance get to you. Theres alot of self appointed thread police on this board.

Theres arrogance here?

[estrepe1]

Good list leo. Dont let some of these fools arrogance get to you. Theres alot of self appointed thread police on this board.

What arrogance has shown up in this thread?

[The G Man]

Mark Mcgwire

Of course, you are correct.

[HoosierBuff]

My Scores

[o] Person has or had a Bobby Higginson or Damion Easley Jersey
[o] Still has ticket stubs to the 2003 season
[x] Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 2003
[x] Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 1984
[x] Knows the name Randy Smith and the evil he unleashed upon this organization
[x] Been to multiple games at old Tigers Stadium and knows they will cry when the stadium meets its end
[x] Is still somewhat mad about the Doyle Alexander trade. BUT I THINK IT WAS A GOOD TRADER
[x] has a rookie card from either Sweet Lou, Alan Trammell, Gibby or Jack Morris.
[x] Mad at the baseball Hall of fame for not have Alan Trammell in it.
[x] Had hope even after the 2003 season.

8 out of ten, and a "join date" on MotownSports of MAY 2003.

I'm not bandwagon, I just lurk.

[catswithbats]

3. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 2003

Warren Morris
Kevin Witt
Chris Mears
Chris Truby
Matt Walbeck

(not positive about the last two :P)

4. Knows the names of at least 5 players from the 1984

Willie Hernandez
Aurelio Rodriguez
Chet Lemon
Kirk Gibson duh :P
Alan Trammell duh again :P

6. Been to multiple games at old Tigers Stadium and knows they will cry when the stadium meets its end

I've only been to one, does that make me a bandwagoner?

7. Is still somewhat mad about the Doyle Alexander trade.

Maybe I would have been had I not been 4 yrs old at the time of the trade

10. Had hope even after the 2003 season.

Of course. :P

[Doctor Detroit]

Know all the Tiger farm teams.

Know where the Tigers have Spring Training

Know the year Comerica opened

Know who the Tigers played in the last game at Tiger Stadium

Know what team Bonderman was traded from (that means they paid attention to the ALCS broadcasts also).

Knows the circumstances involving Andrew Miller falling in the draft.

Can name three of the top five farm prospects

If they know all of that and try to understand my obscure "I wish Sid Monge was warming up in the pen" jokes that I apply to things not even involving baseball, then they are ok. Zealots like the people here are great but we'd kill each other watching the game at a sports bar together. Mixing in passive fans, bandwagon fans, and dirty chicks makes the experience a little less serious.

[whitecapwendy]

Know all the Tiger farm teams.

Know where the Tigers have Spring Training

Know the year Comerica opened

Know who the Tigers played in the last game at Tiger Stadium

Know what team Bonderman was traded from (that means they paid attention to the ALCS broadcasts also).

Knows the circumstances involving Andrew Miller falling in the draft.

Can name three of the top five farm prospects

If they know all of that and try to understand my obscure "I wish Sid Monge was warming up in the pen" jokes that I apply to things not even involving baseball, then they are ok. Zealots like the people here are great but we'd kill each other watching the game at a sports bar together. Mixing in passive fans, bandwagon fans, and dirty chicks makes the experience a little less serious.
the original test I was batting about .500 (mostly because I don't collect jerseys, was never able to attend games at Tigers stadium (does listening on radio/tv count for when I was not at Whitecaps games?), and because I started really following the Tigers (where I knew the names of guys on the team and how the team was doing on a daily basis) about 2001.

I like this test much better--passed it 100% :cool: It amazes me how many Whitecaps season ticket holders have no idea who the farms teams are.

[Euphdude]

The best way to let other people know you're not a bandwagon fan is not to talk about knowing if other people are bandwagon fans.

[eastside billee]

I've been a Tiger fan since 1957. I've been to more games than I can count.
I've followed the team year in and year out.

#1 - I've never had #1 - cuz I never liked either of them.
#2 - I don't save ticket stubs.
#7 - I totally agreed with the Doyle Alexander trade.
Whose gonna be mad when in 2010 Brian Rogers becomes
a 20 game winner for another team, and goes on to have
an illustrious career? Alexander put the Tigers over the hump.
What did Smolz do in 1987? I know he went 2 and 7 in 1988
with the Braves and didn't have a great season until 1996.
#8 - Don't collect baseball cards.
#9 - I'm not mad at the Hall of fame, a little disgruntled but I've been
around so long that I am quite used to Tigers players being overlooked.
#10- I had hope but not for 2004 or 2005 or 2006 for that matter.

I do however, know who Chico Fernandez is, Howie Koplitz, Purn Goldie,
Frank Bolling. I know who the Tigers traded to get Rocky Colavito.
I know the best places in Tiger Stadium to get autographs.

Crazy - you seem like a nice, good guy. Welcome aboard. I think you are being Christened into out group right now. Hang in there. However, most of
these guys are tough, hard core Tiger fans. There are very few bandwagon types here. The reason being, they don't last long.

[Doctor Detroit]

the original test I was batting about .500 (mostly because I don't collect jerseys, was never able to attend games at Tigers stadium (does listening on radio/tv count for when I was not at Whitecaps games?), and because I started really following the Tigers (where I knew the names of guys on the team and how the team was doing on a daily basis) about 2001.

I like this test much better--passed it 100% :cool: It amazes me how many Whitecaps season ticket holders have no idea who the farms teams are.
My good friend once said, "If you are 30 and wearing a jersey with another guys name on it you have issues." I have several Tiger jerseys. None have any names on them and I certainly would have never bought a Damon ####### Easley jersey. (I do have several Wings jerseys with names but only wear Yzerman now. He is exempt form this rule. Al Kaline would be also.)

[Beat it Clown]

You mean Aurelio Lopez

[ErieTigerFan]

Real Tiger fans posted here before 2006! Welcome anyway... :wink:

No offense, MWG, but I only found out about this site about 3 months ago. I grew up listening to WJR and Ernie Harwell (with Ray Lane, and later on Paul Carrey) every night with my dad from the time I was 10 years old.

That dates back to the 1967 season.

[catswithbats]

Know all the Tiger farm teams.

AAA - Toledo
AA - Erie
A - Lakeland/West Michigan
Oneonta, GCL, etc.

Know where the Tigers have Spring Training

Lakeland

Know the year Comerica opened

2000

Know who the Tigers played in the last game at Tiger Stadium

Kansas City Royals

Know what team Bonderman was traded from (that means they paid attention to the ALCS broadcasts also).

A's

Knows the circumstances involving Andrew Miller falling in the draft.

Too expensive for KC so they went with Hochevar, Miller "fell" to Tigers.

Can name three of the top five farm prospects

Er. Sanchez, uh, Larish? De La Cruz? :P

[whitecapwendy]

No offense, MWG, but I only found out about this site about 3 months ago. I grew up listening to WJR and Ernie Harwell (with Ray Lane, and later on Paul Carrey) every night with my dad from the time I was 10 years old.

That dates back to the 1967 season.
I did not know about this web site either, until some friends referred me to it during the last off season. I had previously spent the winter talking baseball on a Venezuelan forum with some very patient Latin Americans who put up with this Gringo who does not know Spanish but relies on Google translator to get her ideas across. Fortunately for me, several knew English. :laugh: Now I do know most of the Spanish initials for their stats and can follow the games on their log without having to translate it. (most by guessing and knowing what is likely to happen--this year they have upgraded to gameday. Following winter ball will be much easier and much more fun this year.

[Domino]

How do you feel about Matt Millen?

Trying to do the right thing but miserably failing.

[ErieTigerFan]

How about naming the typical starting lineup for the World Champion team from 1968? I'll never forget it....
Dick McAuliffe - 2B
Don Wert - 3B
Al Kaline - RF
Norm Cash - 1B
Willie Horton - LF
Jim Northrup ("Slam!") - CF
Bill Freehan - C
Ray Oyler - SS (and you young 'uns think Neifi can't hit?)
whoever was pitching that day...Earl Wilson was an awesome hitter for a pitcher!!

[ErieTigerFan]

I did not know about this web site either, until some friends referred me to it during the last off season. I had previously spent the winter talking baseball on a Venezuelan forum with some very patient Latin Americans who put up with this Gringo who does not know Spanish but relies on Google translator to get her ideas across. Fortunately for me, several knew English. :laugh: Now I do know most of the Spanish initials for their stats and can follow the games on their log without having to translate it. (most by guessing and knowing what is likely to happen--this year they have upgraded to gameday. Following winter ball will be much easier and much more fun this year.

That's pretty cool, WCW!!:classic:

[Doctor Detroit]

How about naming the typical starting lineup for the World Champion team from 1968? I'll never forget it....
Dick McAuliffe - 2B
Don Wert - 3B
Al Kaline - RF
Norm Cash - 1B
Willie Horton - LF
Jim Northrup ("Slam!") - CF
Bill Freehan - C
Ray Oyler - SS (and you young 'uns think Neifi can't hit?)
whoever was pitching that day...Earl Wilson was an awesome hitter for a pitcher!!
I'm doing a What if Sports baseball draft (1961-to present) and I like me some Gates Brown off the pine. Guy had monster numbers in very few ABs. Hoping to get Freehan as my catcher later (A fielding, A range, A+ arm). McAuliffe had a lot of decent years at SS also. 1968 was a few years before I was born but that is my Dad's favorite Tiger team ever.

[Barrie]

Ok, here's my answers:

1. I have a Bobby Higginson Jersey :smoker:
2. I have ticket stubs from 1997, and the other day I found one from 2004.
3. 5 players from 2003: Higginson, Maroth, Monroe, Bonderman, and Inge
4. 5 players from the 1984: (That's easy!) Gibby, Tram, Lou, Morris, and Petry
5. Randy Smith is the devil! :ogre:
6. I've been to 30+ games at Tiger Stadium. I don't know if I'll cry when it goes, but I'll be sad.
7. Looking back, I still would have made the Alexander/Smoltz trade. We were able win the division with his 9-0 record after the trade. Minnesota got lucky in the playoffs! I don't think Smoltz would have made a difference in the early 90's to beat the Jays anyway.
8. I have a 1979 Topps of both Whitaker and Trammell.
9. I'm mad at the Baseball writers for not giving Whitaker enough votes to stay on the Hall of Fame ballot for a 2nd year. In the 1980's ONLY Sandberg was better than Whitaker. Lou should be there!!! Tram in my opinion is on the bubble.
10. I had hope after the 2003 season. I figured if the Wings could win after all the problems they had in the late 60's to the early 80's, the Tigs would eventually turn it around.

[travis]

Know all the Tiger farm teams.

Know where the Tigers have Spring Training

Know the year Comerica opened

Know who the Tigers played in the last game at Tiger Stadium

Know what team Bonderman was traded from (that means they paid attention to the ALCS broadcasts also).

Knows the circumstances involving Andrew Miller falling in the draft.

Can name three of the top five farm prospects

If they know all of that and try to understand my obscure "I wish Sid Monge was warming up in the pen" jokes that I apply to things not even involving baseball, then they are ok. Zealots like the people here are great but we'd kill each other watching the game at a sports bar together. Mixing in passive fans, bandwagon fans, and dirty chicks makes the experience a little less serious.

Grade me:

This is without looking and I may not know a couple so be tough on me.

Toledo, Erie, Lakeland, West Michigan, Oneonta (sp), and of course the GCL Tigers.

Lakeland.

2001.

Kansas City??. Know Jones closed it out and I believe Fick hit the winning grand slam.

Oakland

Not everyone is smart enough to pay top talent top dollars in order to get them into the system.

Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller, Humberto Sanchez, Jair Jurrgens, and probably Brent Clevlen now.

And I don't get your Sid Monge jokes....

[travis]

My good friend once said, "If you are 30 and wearing a jersey with another guys name on it you have issues." I have several Tiger jerseys. None have any names on them and I certainly would have never bought a Damon ####### Easley jersey. (I do have several Wings jerseys with names but only wear Yzerman now. He is exempt form this rule. Al Kaline would be also.)

My dad says a Kaline jersey is the only one he would ever wear from any sport.

[Doctor Detroit]

Grade me:

This is without looking and I may not know a couple so be tough on me.

Toledo, Erie, Lakeland, West Michigan, Oneonta (sp), and of course the GCL Tigers.

Lakeland.

2001.

Kansas City??. Know Jones closed it out and I believe Fick hit the winning grand slam.

Oakland

Not everyone is smart enough to pay top talent top dollars in order to get them into the system.

Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller, Humberto Sanchez, Jair Jurrgens, and probably Brent Clevlen now.

And I don't get your Sid Monge jokes....

Very good. You missed the year Comerica opened (2000) but you'd easily pass my test. Really if you can answer where Spring Training is and some of the history I really won't bother anyone because there is nothing wrong with getting on the bandwagon. Now if it gets out of hand and people start throwing out things like "I'm the biggest Tiger fan ever" then I usually ask a lot of questions to shut them up. Doesn't matter, I'm so damn excited right now I could puke. I might just do that.

[scribe114]

This is my take....

1. Nah would prefer to to have my own name on a jersey even though 4 is my favorite number.

2. Been in the military for the past 19 years so I have not been to Comerica. Have stubs from 1990, 1993, 1998 and 1999

3. Bonderman, Higgy, Maroth, Infante, Inge

4. Parrish, Bergman, Trammell, Whitaker, Brookens

5. A lot of that started with the John Fetzer Jim Campbell regime drafting marginal prospects. Organizational philosophy had to change before the Tigers could turn the corner.

6. Grew up on the East Side of Detroit and started to going to games on my own when I was 12. Played at Tiger Stadium 3 times in High School (1985,86) Wont shed a tear, but will miss it, it's time to turn the page.

7. Alexander came in and performed as expected, Smoltz was an unproven product. If Smoltz stayed with the Tigers he would have not developed as he did under Mazzone's tutelage.

8. (Had) a rookie card from either Sweet Lou, Alan Trammell, Gibby or Jack Morris. Mom chucked them

9. Trams big sticking points: Having Yount, Ripken and Tony Fernandez sharing the SS spotlight and retiring on the rise of Nomar ARod and Jeter. The SS's function in the offense change as did the BBWAA of Trammell. Add in injuries, not being able to string together monster seasons together consistently and a lack of flashiness make it a hard sell. Definition C Hall of Famer, consistently among the best at his position, marginal under Definiton B.

10. As a Tigers fan support the team win or lose, thank goodness for MLB Extra Innings package.

[illmatic774]

Mo' ways to know ...

You wanted to be Shane Halter after the final game in 2000... (it was a pathetic feeling really, but think about it, who else could we aspire to be?)
You were on the edge of your seat/remember watching Weavers no-no through 7 2/3...
You remember the only player to hit an inside the park homerun for us in 2000...
You remember the swarm of bees that swept through CoPa and caused a delay, and you could remember who was batting at the time (and for what team he played for); also in 2000

2000 was sorta memorable for me.

[Imminent Threat]

How About remembering Mark Salas, and his Nickname. "Chief"

[Johnny Mac]

the bon fire in the bullpen to get rid of the locusts or something

[Jeff]

My Tiger brick at the Copa says:

Jeff (Last Name)
Higgy #4 MVP

That 2000 year for Bobby was awesome.

[catswithbats]

You remember the swarm of bees that swept through CoPa and caused a delay, and you could remember who was batting at the time (and for what team he played for); also in 2000

Was it bees? I thought it was flying ants or something. I remember Jones lighting up a torch in the bullpen.

You also remember Josh Lewin throwing out the phrase "statistical outlier" in one game as well as a reference to Seinfeld. :)

[potthole]

Was it bees? I thought it was flying ants or something. I remember Jones lighting up a torch in the bullpen.



You're the right one, it wasn't bees, it was ants. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/2000/08/24/detroit_swarm_ap/) I think that the Jones lit up some broken baseball bats, if I remember right.

[Tyrus]

You're not a real Tiger fan unless you clamored for Sparky to bring up from the minors that future ace, Steve Searcy.

I did, so that makes me a real Tiger fan. Or, maybe just a real old Tiger fan!

[Todd]

If you were the only person posting during some game threads during the 2003 season i think its safe to say your a real fan

[tiger337]

If you remember that Todd used to start the game threads in 2003 and you actually read them, then you are a real fan.:classic:

[shabba4detroit]

I know he was the GM blamed for the bad years but a lot those players just didn't turn out and fulfill their potential. I wouldn't call that unleashing "evil upon an organization".


He put us in the AL Central, he traded all our prospects for Juan Gonzalez, he dismissed the Detroit Tigers circle logo for the Tiger walking through the D. Son of Tal was as evil as they come.

[Oblong]

The logo thing happened in December of 1993. I remember going down to the Pro Shop at Tiger Stadium to look at it all and thinking it was stupid.

[whitecapwendy]

I read all these "requirements" to be called a real Tigers fan, and shake my head. I like to keep things simple. To me, a real Tigers fan is one who rooted for, and followed the Tigers even in lean times (ie 2003) even if they did not know about this message board at the time.

[holygoat]

7. Is still somewhat mad about the Doyle Alexander trade.

Hmm, I guess that means I have to turn in my True Tiger Fan card then. Because even in hindsight I think it was a good trade for Detroit.

I'm really tired of people whining about "bandwagon" fans. I have no problem with people not spending time or money on teams as pathetic as the Tigers used to be.

[travis]

I'm really tired of people whining about "bandwagon" fans. I have no problem with people not spending time or money on teams as pathetic as the Tigers used to be.

I dont blame them either. I just don't appreciate the new "die hards" as they like to call themselves. I know a hell of a lot of people that are suddenly interested in those Tigers and it really is awesome. Its the guys that are pretending they've always followed the team closely when they obviously haven't that annoy me.

Anyone think about how much different this offseason and the beginning of next year is gonna be? I don't know what might have happened during the Rogers and Jones signings if the fan base was as big as it is now. Dombrowski might have gotten run out of town. And Opening Day???? I had to beg people to watch it with me this year, now I might actually have to get to the bar a few hours early just to get a seat...Should be fun anyway.

[Lbh24]

I dont blame them either. I just don't appreciate the new "die hards" as they like to call themselves. I know a hell of a lot of people that are suddenly interested in those Tigers and it really is awesome. Its the guys that are pretending they've always followed the team closely when they obviously haven't that annoy me.

I get what you're saying. I don't mind the people who just didn't pay much attention, but the ones who went out of their way to point out how awesome the Wings were compared to my Tigers, and now they're all about the ballclub, it's a bit annoying. However, there are many young, attractive females who have taken interest in the Tigers this year, and I think that makes up for all of it :classic:

[travis]

However, there are many young, attractive females who have taken interest in the Tigers this year, and I think that makes up for all of it :classic:

Indeed, this has made the season even mor enjoyable than it already would have been.