I have this unhealthy but honest feeling, that whoever we play, we will crush

[illmatic774]

its ironic... i feel like one of those yankee fans...

but those teams dont look like they're any better than the A's. Both pitching staffs are nothing to fear, but the Met's is anemic. I just wanna see that whole team healthy when we play them, so there will be no excuses whatsoever, and i'm all up for a challenge. And we know what we did with St. Louis, especially Chris Carpenter.

this is more than confidence, i'm afraid. however i'm totally aware that the better team doesn't alway win, and the Cards fans yesterday reminded me of the Tiger fans, with that same fire (almost). of course i'll look like the stupidest person on earth if we ended up getting beat, but this is how i honestly feel.

[Oblong]

I don't.

The Mets or Cards will have the same attitude/issue that we had against NY.

[Ron Burgandy]

I don't.

The Mets or Cards will have the same attitude/issue that we had against NY.

The difference being that the Tigers and Yankees were pretty equal in terms of talent, and it was only a 5 game series. The Tigers are vastly superior to the team being put on the field by either the Mets or Cards at this point, and we have 7 games to let our talent advantage play out.

It's possible we'll be upset, but I don't see this lasting more than 5 games.

[estrepe1]

Anything can happen in the playoffs. Don't be disappointed if they don't sweep. I want them to win and hope they win. If they pitch like they did in the ALCS they will win.

Just let it ride and don't create unhealthy expectations.

[Ron Burgandy]

I hope it goes 6, because that is the only game I have tickets for. I won't be disappointed with a World Championship, whether it arrives in 4 or 7 games.

[snoogit]

My hopes just got turned up a notch:

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=63329

[Flame 103]

I hope the tigers win it in 4 or 5 but i could care less if it takes 6 or 7 if they win it.

I dont have the feeling we will crush who we play. I'm worried about them crushing us. I'm paranoid as you all know.

[Flame 103]

My hopes just got turned up a notch:

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=63329


At least the cards dont have jeter.

[Domino]

I don't have that feeling at all.

In fact I think we're going to struggle more against the Cards than the Mets. The mets have no chance if you shut down their hitters, which I'm confident our pitching can do. However the Cards have some really great pitching, and in many ways are "equal" to us if not better. They have great managing, great pitching and clutch hitters. They play smart baseball.

If we pull the cards I'm predicting Tigers in 7. If we pull the Mets I'm predicting Tigers in 6.

[Ron Burgandy]

The Cardinals won 83 games, and are relying on Jeff Weaver, a pitcher almost waived by Anaheim earlier this year, along with a rookie Anthony Reyes, who didn't even make the NLDS roster.

Other than Carpenter (who we hit hard earlier this year), our SPs are all better than St. Louis'. Plus St. Louis is banged up. The Mets will prove tougher than St. Louis.

[Flame 103]

I don't have that feeling at all.

In fact I think we're going to struggle more against the Cards than the Mets. The mets have no chance if you shut down their hitters, which I'm confident our pitching can do. However the Cards have some really great pitching, and in many ways are "equal" to us if not better. They have great managing, great pitching and clutch hitters. They play smart baseball.

If we pull the cards I'm predicting Tigers in 7. If we pull the Mets I'm predicting Tigers in 6.


I dont think so. Mets are tougher. The cards are in no way Equal to us. They hjave Puljos and Carp.

People forget we swept the cards this year.

[tiger337]

I think the Cardinals would be be a tougher series right now. I don't think they have great pitching but it's better than the Mets. Carpenter is great and Suppan and Weaver have been pitching well lately. The Tigers still have 4 guys that are better than Suppan and Weaver though. The Mets have a great hitting team but I think the Tigers can contain them and the Mets pitching is poor.

If the Tigers keep playing well they should beat either the Cardinals or Mets without too much trouble. The only team I'm really worried about is the Tigers. Anything can happen in a short series including one of their patented team hitting slumps. But I'll pick the Tigers in 6 no matter who they play.

[tiger337]

I dont think so. Mets are tougher. The cards are in no way Equal to us. They hjave Puljos and Carp.

People forget we swept the cards this year.

The Yankees dominated the Tigers in the regular season too. The Mets pitching is crap right now. I'm more afraid of the Cardinals than the Mets.

[tigersfandm]

I am sure the Yankees thought they would crush the Tigers. I'm sure the Mets thought they would crush all the opponents in the NL Playoffs too. I'm sure the Padres thought they would crush the Cards since they had, on paper, a distinct pitching advantage over the Cards. I wouldn't use crush as a word until everything is all played out.

Both the Mets and the Cardinals will be tough. I say the Cards will be tougher, because they play more team baseball than the Mets do. Mets are almost to that Yankee style, where they hope they can just hit their way to winning games.

[BiggieG]

I keep taking a deep breath and smelling those 97+ mph heaters hitting Pudge's mitt from all our pitchers. Burning leather. Smells good!

[snoogit]

At least the cards dont have jeter.

I liked him in game 3 of the ALDS.

[zachcadillac]

I am confident but really nervous. This is not a sure thing no matter who we draw. And I'm torn about who I'd rather face. I think beating the Mets would be regarded as a more impressive accomplishment, which isn't important in the larger picture but would save me the hassle of hearing people whine about another boring World Series matchup.

[qsilvr2531]

I think the Cardinals would be be a tougher series right now. I don't think they have great pitching but it's better than the Mets. Carpenter is great and Suppan and Weaver have been pitching well lately. The Tigers still have 4 guys that are better than Suppan and Weaver though. The Mets have a great hitting team but I think the Tigers can contain them and the Mets pitching is poor.

If the Tigers keep playing well they should beat either the Cardinals or Mets without too much trouble. The only team I'm really worried about is the Tigers. Anything can happen in a short series including one of their patented team hitting slumps. But I'll pick the Tigers in 6 no matter who they play.

I'll pick the Tigers in 4 because I've called for a sweep in each series so far. It is a short series and anything can happen, but we're significantly better than either team the NL will send at us (more so that we were against Oakland).

The Cards look tougher than the Mets right now, only because the Mets are very short in starting pitching. It is a short series and anything can happen, but we've got to be big favorites against either team.

[irishmick79]

This year's team feels like the 2004 Red Sox a bit - they just seem to be the team of destiny. If you say that before it's all said and done, are you jinxing it?

[Domino]

The Yankees dominated the Tigers in the regular season too. The Mets pitching is crap right now. I'm more afraid of the Cardinals than the Mets.

Totally agree with you. The cardinals are much more a of a complete team and is more capable of beating us than the Mets right now. Further, as evidenced by what the Tigers just did the regular season records means absolutely jack crap right now.

If the mets were 100% healthy I would change my mind, but they aren't, and they don't have the experience that the cards have (in both management and team which have 3 straight trips to the NLCS). Cards are up 3-2 with their ace going tonight against a rookie, I think it's over and we should not be rejoicing that we will likely have to face the cards.

[Johnny Mac]

I am way more afraid of the Mets than the Cards, i dont think the Cards would give us a problem. the cards are under .500 this year against left handed pitching, we throw rogers and nate twice, we would be in good shape. The mets hitting is better, and neither pitching staff scares me. bring on the cards though, i want them

[Shaggy Ry]

I just hope the Mets win tonight forcing a game seven to give us the most benefit of our week off. That means whatever team comes out of the NL will have played five days, have one off day on Friday and then open with us for two, have another off day and then have three in their home, an off day and then two more in Detroit.

So counting the five straight they will have played in the NLCS and the possibly seven in the WS, they would have played 12 games over 15 days, with those off-days being travel days.

[ErieTigerFan]

I don't believe there is much to fear. The Tigers not only dominated the NL in inter-league play this year, but this trend followed thru most all the AL/NL matchups. Why, KC even wound up above .500 against NL opponents, and they faced St. Louis twice!!

Recall, too, that the last two World Series were SWEPT by the AL, showing - I think - a vast disparity in talent between the two leagues. They say (and we've proved) that dominant pitching shuts down dominaring offenses, and thus far that has held true and probably always will.

Tigers will win - regardless of oppenent - in 5 games or less. Unless, of course, Casey and Zumiya are re-injured, along with Polanco, Guillen, Pudge, Ordonez, Monroe and Inge. Then it could get interesting.

[Flame 103]

cards are getting too much credit in this thread.

[Oblong]

I'm afriad of Albert Pujols. I'd throw him balls every time.

[Shaggy Ry]

El Duque looks like he'll make it back for the WS if the Mets make it there as well. I'm not nearly as confident as some are here, but that's how I'm wired.

Tigs choked when they were the frontrunners, I don't know how they'll react if they're the consensus favorite heading into the series.

[Flame 103]

I'm not confident against either team.

[estrepe1]

The only team I'm really worried about is the Tigers. Anything can happen in a short series including one of their patented team hitting slumps. But I'll pick the Tigers in 6 no matter who they play.

This is the exact thing I worry about. This team is really prone to offensive slumps that no pitching could carry them through. Lets hope they don't fall into one of those during a series because if they do it would be really hard to pull out of.

I'm not confident against either team.

You haven't been confident about anything in the playoffs.

[djhutch]

I have what I call a hopeful enthusiasm. I think the Tigers stack up well, but I don't wanna get cocky.

[Dawgs]

Its not a matter of being optimistic or pessimistic. Be realistic. The Tigers could play thier best baseball and still get beat. We could play a sloppy series and win. Its the playoffs and anything can happen. The Tigers are not so dominant that this is even close to being a foregone conclusion.

[estrepe1]

Its not a matter of being optimistic or pessimistic. Be realistic. The Tigers could play thier best baseball and still get beat. We could play a sloppy series and win. Its the playoffs and anything can happen. The Tigers are not so dominant that this is even close to being a foregone conclusion.


If the Tigers play their best baseball they will win the series.

[DrWho17]

I don't really care who they play in terms of their odds of winning and losing. I am leaning toward the Mets, in that I don't want to hear about the Larussa/Leyland garbage, brings back memories of Larry Brown/Greg Popovich.

[chasfh]

The Yankees dominated the Tigers in the regular season too. The Mets pitching is crap right now. I'm more afraid of the Cardinals than the Mets.

Not me -- The Cards are not a better team than the Mets, even today. Chris Carpenter can't pitch every day. Suppan is the only other decent starter -- all the others were god-awful. Weaver and Perez weren't anything like good. Adam Wainwright is the only credible threat coming out of the bullpen. On the batting side of the equation, Pujols is God, and Rolen and Speizio were good. Duncan is great but is only coming off the bench, and everyone else on that roster is sketchy at best and sucky at worst.

The Mets don't have really good starting pitching today, but if El Duque comes back, he's a good #3 after Glavine and Maine, forcing Perez off the roster. Trachsel is beatable. But that what worries me is that lineup -- they have four all-star level hitters, and Lo Duca, Valentin and even Endy Chavez ain't chopped liver, either. They can outslug you to a degree the Cardinals just can't.

I fear the Mets more than the Cardinals.

[tiger337]

Not me -- The Cards are not a better team than the Mets, even today.

The Cardinals are not a better team than the Mets but in terms of matchups, I think the Tiger pitchers can contain the Mets batters easier than the Tiger batters can hit Carpenter and Suppan (who had an excellent second half and post-season so far) and even Weaver who is pitching well right now. Of course, if the Tigers continue to play as well as they did versus NY and Oakland, I don't think either team is going to give them trouble.

[tigers2series]

Anything can happen in the playoffs. Don't be disappointed if they don't sweep. I want them to win and hope they win. If they pitch like they did in the ALCS they will win.


This made me chuckle, just thinking back to April and how no one could have dreamed that we would be talking about the Tigers in the World Series, let alone being confident enough to talk about a sweep.

With that said, I do have that same "feeling" that we are going to rip apart whoever wins the NLCS. Every once in a while team's come along that just have that magic about them and the Tigers are one of those teams. There not going to be denied. It doesn't matter who the Cards or Mets throw out there, the Tigers have proven they can beat star studded lineups and great pitching. Neither team IMO has a deep enough pitching staff to push the series past 5 without stealing a game. I don't see the Tigers being forced to play more than 6 games before they are crowned World Series champs.

[illmatic774]

First off, the Cardinals are dealing with a 3 man rotation if they get to us; they are not gonna start that other scrub that got rocked on Sunday.

Weaver has pitched well, but hes still Weaver... with even worse emotions than Bonderman at his worst. We know that.

Carpenter got rocked against us, but i'm sure we won't fare as well this time around.

Suppan is a good pitcher, who will have his good and bad days.

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The Mets look like a total wreck right now. Glavine, Trachsel :grin:, and... John Maine?

And they are struggling to keep their heads over water. The injuries to their starting pitchers just came at the worst possible time.


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The Tigers are just loaded...


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And there's no way that the Cardinals are as good as the Tigers... Only the healthy Mets are as good as the Tigers.

[Brian]

I'm taking the Tigers in 5 vs. whoever. Mets & Cards are both banged up. It's not the Tigers fault. But, even without Zoom the Tigers would & will beat either one of these teams.

[estrepe1]

If the NLCS goes 7 games it is going to be interesting with the Cardinals. Carpenter wouldn't be available for game 1. Suppan wouldn't be available until game 3. Carpenter wouldn't really be available game 2 unless they wanted him to have his first start in the WS to be on 3 days rest. Weaver wouldn't be avaible in game 1 unless they wanted him go in on 3 days rest.

So if they go on normal rest and have Carpenter as soon as possible their rotation would likely be:

1. Marquis
2. Weaver
3. Carpenter
4. Suppan

[dt35456884]

If the Cardinals advance to the World Series, it's almost our duty to defeat them, just to maintain the integrity of the World Series Championship. They won 83 games in a joke of a division in a joke of a league. They have no business being World Champions.

[FloridaTigers]

I don't like this overconfidence. I really don't.

[illmatic774]

If the Cardinals advance to the World Series, it's almost our duty to defeat them, just to maintain the integrity of the World Series Championship. They won 83 games in a joke of a division in a joke of a league. They have no business being World Champions.

Srsly. They're just catching the breaks. From Interleague play until the end of the season they were a complete joke. They are just lucky that the Padres may be the worst hitting team in the league, and the Mets are completely banged up.

Upcoming series goes no longer than 5 games, and you can quote me on that.

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm a very optimistic Tiger fan and have criticized people here and elsewhere for the pessimistic stuff that makes me ill. So I have to say I don't really mind Tiger fans being confident. We should be.

But I'm cautious. Florida beat the Yankees, the Royals beat the Cardinals, the Braves almost beat the Twins, the Twins beat the Cardinals and so on. The Cards and Mets both have a chance to win this series but they will have to get a whole lot of bounces and hope they find a completely different Tiger team that won the ALCS last Saturday. I have a good feeling about this team but I'm guarded. I won't process this season for a long time anyway because it's just special like no other sports season in any sport has ever been to me.

But the Mets or Cards will have won seven games in the past two weeks and change. They've got a shot against the Tigers.

[GartenSpartan]

I think the Tigers are the best team remaining, but I think some of us are bordering on arrogance. Anything can happen like many have stated and even though we have had an easy time of it so far in the playoffs, I think all we should do right now is just enjoy what we've accomplished and where we are now and not set ourselves up for disappointment if the World Series doesn't workout to our expectations. With the way we ended our season not too many even on this board predicted we would make it out of the first round but we surprised everyone...now we are the favorites and there very well could be a surprise again, you just never know.

[whitecapwendy]

I am hoping for Tigers in four, but will call Tigers in five. (I want the ring secured before Saturday the 28th--I have to be out of town that day)
I agree with GartenSpartan--if something happens and Tigers don't win the ring, it will still be a wonderful season. I am enjoying this thoroughly

[FloridaTigers]

Its the post-season. Anything can happen. The Redbirds are redhot. Why don't they have a chance to beat the Tigers or take the series deep? There is too much arrogance going on. Alot of you sound like Yankees fans before the ALDS.

[tiger337]

If the Cardinals advance to the World Series, it's almost our duty to defeat them, just to maintain the integrity of the World Series Championship. They won 83 games in a joke of a division in a joke of a league. They have no business being World Champions.

I agree. That's the danger of having expanded playoffs. Imagine if they decide to expand to more teams.

[tiger337]

Its the post-season. Anything can happen. The Redbirds are redhot. Why don't they have a chance to beat the Tigers or take the series deep? There is too much arrogance going on. Alot of you sound like Yankees fans before the ALDS.

So what? We have no effect on the outcome. If the players felt that way, it would be a problems but we can be as confident as we want.

[illmatic774]

Its the post-season. Anything can happen. The Redbirds are redhot. Why don't they have a chance to beat the Tigers or take the series deep? There is too much arrogance going on. Alot of you sound like Yankees fans before the ALDS.

Starting. Pitching.

We have it up the butt. If one of them happens to suck, throw in Ledezma, and it stops the bleeding more times than not. Get it to the 7th inning, Zumaya or Rodney, and finish it with Jones.

What kind of depth do the Cards have on that pitching staff? Are they seriously gonna start Reyes against us? They better just save him for the bullpen. They are not a bad hitting team at all, but they're not the greatest. But our pitching runs complete circles around them. They need Carpenter going every 3 days.

Call it arrogance if it floats your boat, but like tiger337 said, we have no bearing on how they play, so we can be as confident as we want.

[tiger337]

1. Marquis
2. Weaver
3. Carpenter
4. Suppan

Marquis was not on the roster for the Mets series and he popped off about it so I think he's done with the Cardinals. Reyes is currently in the rotation.

[Doctor Detroit]

Starting. Pitching.

We have it up the butt. If one of them happens to suck, throw in Ledezma, and it stops the bleeding more times than not. Get it to the 7th inning, Zumaya or Rodney, and finish it with Jones.

What kind of depth do the Cards have on that pitching staff? Are they seriously gonna start Reyes against us?

Tigers had trouble with a lot of bad pitching staffs this year especially in August and September. Just sayin'. Boof Bonzer beat us a couple of times.

[illmatic774]

Tigers had trouble with a lot of bad pitching staffs this year especially in August and September. Just sayin'. Boof Bonzer beat us a couple of times.

Boof isn't a bad pitcher at all. He was part of the reason the Twins wons the division; picked up the slack when Liriano went down. Him and Garza.

[Doctor Detroit]

Boof isn't a bad pitcher at all. He was part of the reason the Twins wons the division; picked up the slack when Liriano went down. Him and Garza.
Aren't the Cards pitchers doing the same? Carpenter can beat anyone and Weaver has been good in these playoffs. Suppan is serviceable and I know nothing about Reyes. A week off in baseball is like a month off in football. The bats in game one are gonna be a little cold.

[Flame 103]

FloridaTigers i agree to a point that people are too overconfident but it's the cards for christ sake. The tigers wont take any team for granted after being manhandled by the royals the last weekend.

[Doctor Detroit]

The tigers wont take any team for granted after being manhandled by the royals the last weekend.

I think this is a very good point.

[Casimir]

Amazing. If any other team/fan base/media were talking about rolling over the Tigers in 5 games, there'd be a bunch of whinin' and cryin' going on in this thread. Its simply bizarre how some can play both sides of the arguement.

[Flame 103]

This is not even closely related to what yankee fans did.

[illmatic774]

Amazing. If any other team/fan base/media were talking about rolling over the Tigers in 5 games, there'd be a bunch of whinin' and cryin' going on in this thread. Its simply bizarre how some can play both sides of the arguement.

Hold me accountable to my word then. The Cardinals won 83 fricken games. We ended up the season 2 games beheind the Yankees.. thats quite a difference.

And don't forget that we are a better team in every imaginable aspect of the game, except in having the most Pujolses.

[dt35456884]

Do people here actually believe that the confidence level of fans will somehow effect the outcome of the World Series?

If it were the Twins, A's, or Yankees waiting for an opponent, everyone here would be pretty damn confident about the American League's chances in this series. The uneasiness comes from the fact that it's our team with everything on the line.

By the way, while the Cards seem best poised to win the NLCS, if tonight's score holds up they will be 4-4 since coming back from San Diego. They aren't exactly setting the world on fire, folks.

[Casimir]

Do people here actually believe that the confidence level of fans will somehow effect the outcome of the World Series?

I would hope not, but you never know. Is this directed at anyone in particular?

If it were the Twins, A's, or Yankees waiting for an opponent, everyone here would be pretty damn confident about the American League's chances in this series. The uneasiness comes from the fact that it's our team with everything on the line.

I don't know that that is necessarily true about the confidence thing. I feel pretty confident, but I've been pretty confident all along. Shall we rewind to the closing moments of the Royals series and examine the confidence at that point in time?

By the way, while the Cards seem best poised to win the NLCS, if tonight's score holds up they will be 4-4 since coming back from San Diego. They aren't exactly setting the world on fire, folks.

Momentum doesn't mean much. The 19-31 Tigers have gone 7-1. They weren't exaclty setting the world on fire, either.

I'm not trying to bust anyone's balls over this, but it just amazes me what a difference a couple of weeks can make. How some people go from thinking 3 and out vs the Yankees while at the same time griping about disrespect to now thinking we'll just roll over whomever we face in the playoffs. Its baseball, anything can happen. The rise and fall of the expectations/attitudes along the way just amazes me.

[Charles Liston]

I'll pick the Tigers in 4 ...It is a short series and anything can happen, but we're significantly better than either team the NL will send at us (more so that we were against Oakland).

Second that.

[Flame 103]

I think the tigers will win it in 4 or 5. They could win it in 6 or 7.

[ghettodan]

everyone needs to stop being arrogant. The Card's winning only 83 games means absolutely nothing, if they win tomorrow they are in the world series.

Just remember that the card's have a lot of experience in the post season. There are a lot of former world series champs in the starting line up and know what they are doing. Hell Taguchi is 5-5 in the series right now with like 2 HRs and 6 RBIs plus he almost brought them back to win tonight. It's great the tigers are in the WS but you have to respect their opponent as well,

teams who finish the season the worst have a bad habbit of winning it all and the cards finished the season worse then we did.

[Flame 103]

everyone needs to stop being arrogant. The Card's winning only 83 games means absolutely nothing, if they win tomorrow they are in the world series.

Just remember that the card's have a lot of experience in the post season. There are a lot of former world series champs in the starting line up and know what they are doing. Hell Taguchi is 5-5 in the series right now with like 2 HRs and 6 RBIs plus he almost brought them back to win tonight. It's great the tigers are in the WS but you have to respect their opponent as well,

teams who finish the season the worst have a bad habbit of winning it all and the cards finished the season worse then we did.

4-4 2 HR 4 RBI's.

Just quit it ghetto, I'm not being ignorant. I'm just saying the mets are the tougher team.

I respect the met's, laugh at the cards.

[dt35456884]

There are a lot of former world series champs in the starting line up and know what they are doing.

Eckstein
Spiezio
Encarnacion

That qualifies as "a lot"?

[estrepe1]

Eckstein
Spiezio
Encarnacion

That qualifies as "a lot"?

The Tigers have Kenny Rogers and Ivan Rodriguez as WS winners. So I guess its 3 to 2 Cards.

I wonder how many WS champions the Angels had.... how about the Diamondbacks? oo I know the 1984 Tigers?

Experience at winning doesn't mean all that much. Its all about who is hotter at that moment and who gets better pitching over the series.

[dt35456884]

The Tigers have Kenny Rogers and Ivan Rodriguez as WS winners. So I guess its 3 to 2 Cards.

I wonder how many WS champions the Angels had.... how about the Diamondbacks? oo I know the 1984 Tigers?

Experience at winning doesn't mean all that much. Its all about who is hotter at that moment and who gets better pitching over the series.

If you want to expand it to pitchers, the Cards have Braden Looper too.

And anybody who's giving the Cardinals an edge against us in part because of Braden Looper's World Series is really grasping at straws.

[tiger337]

Eckstein
Spiezio
Encarnacion

That qualifies as "a lot"?

You have to admit that Encarnacion knows what he's doing though.

[Brian]

I have to agree with the "SI" writter who said "The N.L. teams left are a joke." The Tigers are the best team with the best pitching.

[illmatic774]

The NL in itself is a joke.

[Canon Fodder]

I want the Mets. Though I believe they're a better team (and more of a threat to beat the Tigers) than the Cardinals, the chance to put it to New York again is just too good to pass up.

To have the Subway Series derail twice because of stops in Detroit would be icing on an already delicious cake.

[ghettodan]

4-4 2 HR 4 RBI's.

Just quit it ghetto, I'm not being ignorant. I'm just saying the mets are the tougher team.

I respect the met's, laugh at the cards.

just remember you laughed at the Cards if they happen to make the WS and win. You probly said there was no way in hell Detroit could get swept by KC either at the end of the season. Like i said you have to respect your opponents

[estrepe1]

just remember you laughed at the Cards if they happen to make the WS and win. You probly said there was no way in hell Detroit could get swept by KC either at the end of the season. Like i said you have to respect your opponents

What does it matter what a few people on a message board think? All that matters is the mindset of the players. I doubt Leyland has even come close to letting the players think that they are going to just walk over who ever they play.

I agree that anything can happen. But the Tigers are going to be favorites here.

[BostonTigersFan]

Hold me accountable to my word then. The Cardinals won 83 fricken games. We ended up the season 2 games beheind the Yankees.. thats quite a difference.

And don't forget that we are a better team in every imaginable aspect of the game, except in having the most Pujolses.

"...the most Pujolses." That is my favortie quote I have ever seen posted on this message board. Well done.