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Zakk_Wylde
10-10-2006, 01:38 PM
Sorry if this was already posted. Sporting News has named Justin Verlander ROY, and Jim Leyland MOY. This is per WXYT, I'm sure online sources will be cited soon.
IdahoBert
10-10-2006, 01:39 PM
A no brainer. It was obvious.
Oblong
10-10-2006, 01:41 PM
These are sporting news awards though, not MLB awards? Is that correct?
Domino
10-10-2006, 01:41 PM
These are sporting news awards though, not MLB awards? Is that correct?

That's what I'm wondering as well.

If not, when are the MLB awards announced?
Yoda
10-10-2006, 01:46 PM
That's what I'm wondering as well.

If not, when are the MLB awards announced?

Correct. MLB awards are announced after the World Series. Usually the next week.
slim pickens
10-10-2006, 01:47 PM
They are the sporting news awards.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061010&content_id=1707200&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

But they will probably be the MLB awards to. They are usually similar.
Oblong
10-10-2006, 01:47 PM
I thought they were announced during the LCS?
tiger337
10-10-2006, 01:48 PM
Yes, TSN has their own awards. The official awards are not announced until after the post-season. I don't know whether the official ones are any more meaningful than the unofficial ones but I can't see anybody picking anybody else for those two awards.
tiger337
10-10-2006, 01:49 PM
I thought they were announced during the LCS?

No, they don't like to make any big announcements while the post-season is going on.
slim pickens
10-10-2006, 01:55 PM
I could only find this Postseason award schedule from 2000. But I doubt much has changed since.

http://www.allsports.com/cgi-bin/showstory.cgi?story_id=9092
sloan
10-10-2006, 01:59 PM
that's so awesome
tigersfandm
10-10-2006, 02:06 PM
I thought I heard Harwell say when he was doing a couple of innings of broadcasting for ESPN last week, that they stopped announcing the awards for MLB until after the season because some player in the early 1910-1920 range was named MVP and in the World Series he had a horrible series and thought it was due to that and ever since then MLB has waited until after the season to announce winners of individual awards. Did anybody else hear Harwell say that story?
Yoda
10-10-2006, 02:27 PM
Leave it to Ernie to know something that obscure.
ypsieast
10-10-2006, 02:41 PM
I thought I heard Harwell say when he was doing a couple of innings of broadcasting for ESPN last week, that they stopped announcing the awards for MLB until after the season because some player in the early 1910-1920 range was named MVP and in the World Series he had a horrible series and thought it was due to that and ever since then MLB has waited until after the season to announce winners of individual awards. Did anybody else hear Harwell say that story?
He definitely said that. Some guy on the Dodgers (?) made three errors in a game (inning?)... I think he said.
84 Lives!!!
10-10-2006, 03:07 PM
I thought I heard Harwell say when he was doing a couple of innings of broadcasting for ESPN last week, that they stopped announcing the awards for MLB until after the season because some player in the early 1910-1920 range was named MVP and in the World Series he had a horrible series and thought it was due to that and ever since then MLB has waited until after the season to announce winners of individual awards. Did anybody else hear Harwell say that story?

Bresnahan in 1925.
84 Lives!!!
10-10-2006, 03:13 PM
Wow!!!

I feel like such a lonely voice in these threads... :grin:
redshark63
10-10-2006, 03:44 PM
Bresnahan in 1925.

Except that Bresnahan never won an MVP award and was out of baseball by 1915.
slim pickens
10-10-2006, 03:45 PM
Except that Bresnahan never won an MVP award and was out of baseball by 1915.
LOL!!!
tigerkid23
10-10-2006, 03:50 PM
It was Roger Peckinpaugh. He batted .294/.367/.379 in 1925 and won the MVP over guys like Al Simmons (1.018 OPS) and Harry Heilmann (1.026 OPS). It was a ridiculous choice to begin with. That'd be like David Eckstein winning the MVP. He might've been the worst MVP of all time.

To top it off, he made 8 errors in the World Series.
Tigertown Rats
10-10-2006, 04:00 PM
Bresnahan in 1925.

Ernie's been sitting on that story for 81 years?!?!

I call shenanigans. Someone else heard Ernie tell that story besides Bresnahan and tigersfandm.
84 Lives!!!
10-10-2006, 04:58 PM
Except that Bresnahan never won an MVP award and was out of baseball by 1915.

I could've sworn Ernie said Roger Bresnahan in 1925...?

Maybe he said Peckinpaugh and I'm getting my "Rogers" mixed up...

But I could've sworn...
dndlion
10-10-2006, 04:59 PM
No, they don't like to make any big announcements while the post-season is going on

I thought ESPN's post-season was over, since the Yankees got whooped.
jessman1128
10-10-2006, 06:07 PM
I thought ESPN's post-season was over, since the Yankees got whooped.
:silly: :silly: That's awesome!
catswithbats
10-11-2006, 03:05 AM
I thought I heard Harwell say when he was doing a couple of innings of broadcasting for ESPN last week, that they stopped announcing the awards for MLB until after the season because some player in the early 1910-1920 range was named MVP and in the World Series he had a horrible series and thought it was due to that and ever since then MLB has waited until after the season to announce winners of individual awards. Did anybody else hear Harwell say that story?

I heard that too.
ajspence
10-11-2006, 09:49 AM
It was Roger Peckinpaugh. He batted .294/.367/.379 in 1925 and won the MVP over guys like Al Simmons (1.018 OPS) and Harry Heilmann (1.026 OPS). It was a ridiculous choice to begin with. That'd be like David Eckstein winning the MVP. He might've been the worst MVP of all time.

To top it off, he made 8 errors in the World Series.
Maybe he actually WAS the most valuable PLAYER, not just the best hitter that season. Perhaps the perception of those voting saw something we did not 80 years ago.
rw_dc
10-11-2006, 11:03 AM
I could've sworn Ernie said Roger Bresnahan in 1925...?

Maybe he said Peckinpaugh and I'm getting my "Rogers" mixed up...

But I could've sworn...

I have this saved and Ernie definitely said Roger Peckinpaugh in 1925.

Here's his exact quote:
"You know Roger Peckinpaugh was announced as the MVP in 1925, and then he made 8 errors in the World Series and from then on they decided that they would wait until after the World Series to name the MVP."