View Full Version : NY Times: The Tigers are falling apart
Tyrus
08-15-2006, 05:28 PM
Murray Chass = idiot. Exhibit A:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/sports/baseball/15chass.html?ref=sports
spawn2004
08-15-2006, 05:34 PM
Funny...that's what everyone said about the Sox when the Indians were closing last year, and look what happened.
Anthony
08-15-2006, 05:35 PM
Figures he writes for a NY paper.
Lbh24
08-15-2006, 05:51 PM
Murray Chass = idiot. Exhibit A:
Prosecution rests.
The jury has reached a verdict.
pyrotigers
08-15-2006, 05:52 PM
What do you expect, it's the New York Times :P
Motor City Sonics
08-15-2006, 06:03 PM
Must be nice to have a team with a $200 million payroll. A team that hasn't won the trophy since 2000, by the way.
Timberwolf
08-15-2006, 06:15 PM
Murray Chass is MLB's version of Charley Rosen, who writes basketball. They are both negative and condecending. They love to stir it up.
Tigeraholic1
08-15-2006, 06:18 PM
Man the sky is falling... I swear they still have the freakin best record in baseball!!! The problem with being bad so long you even get made fun of once your start to win...
RedTeamGo!
08-15-2006, 06:21 PM
A team that hasn't won the trophy since 2000, by the way.
Five years is a long time?
pyrotigers
08-15-2006, 06:26 PM
Five years is a long time?
When you spend about twice as much as any other team, and are the primary desired target destination for every free agent, yes.
pfife
08-15-2006, 06:29 PM
its amazing to me that the Yankees have won almost 1/4 of all World Series.
RedTeamGo!
08-15-2006, 06:37 PM
Actually, I think the Red Sox are only like 30 million behind. The Yankees have been in the playoffs for the past 5 years, making it to the world series in 2 of those...in 2001 losing in a dramatic game 7. The World Series is hard to win, and with the payroll they have they are in good position to win it every single season.
Oblong
08-15-2006, 06:39 PM
Murray Chass??? Isn't he like 200 years old?
TigerCap
08-15-2006, 07:33 PM
It amazes me that anyone still reads the NYT.
What does the Enquirer say about our chances???
Similar level of journalism.
Timberwolf
08-15-2006, 08:07 PM
The NY Times is no different than the Daily News or the NY Post.
tiger337
08-15-2006, 08:24 PM
Murray Chass??? Isn't he like 200 years old?
I was just going to say I thought he was dead.
Motor City Sonics
08-15-2006, 08:46 PM
The NY Times is no different than the Daily News or the NY Post.
The Post has those great cheesy front page headlines.......
NEWT 4 PREZ
08-15-2006, 10:13 PM
just when i thought i couldnt despise the times any more.......
zachcadillac
08-16-2006, 08:25 AM
Murray Chass is MLB's version of Charley Rosen, who writes basketball. They are both negative and condecending. They love to stir it up.
But Rosen, unlike Chass, is extremely knowledgable.
ajspence
08-16-2006, 08:44 AM
Maybe this New York clown is using "reverse-pschology" to induce a Boston sweep?
MelissaG915
08-16-2006, 09:10 AM
seems after reading the article, the author is anticipating a collapse rather than actually witnessing it. He also contradicts himself by saying the Tigers were doomed since they were facing Beckett and Schilling, but in the next paragraph, mentioned the Tigers already took care of Beckett by beating him.
So is the team collapsing or not?
zachcadillac
08-16-2006, 09:13 AM
Maybe this New York clown is using "reverse-pschology" to induce a Boston sweep?
Probably not. He hates Boston much more than he hates the Tigers. Check the first graf.
tigersfandm
08-16-2006, 09:20 AM
The Tigers just won the 3 game series AT Boston, which Boston has the best home record in the AL. Yeah right the Tigers are falling apart. Dumb reporters.
DetroitFolly
08-16-2006, 09:31 AM
I'm not angry about this column at all.
He asks legitimate questions, the same freakin' questions we have been asking all year.
Can they handle the pressure? The article doesn't take any digs at the team, it just asks whether or not a team with young pitching (with the exception of Kenny) and little experience in pennant races can hang in there.
Not everything has to be peaches and cream. I hardly think this qualifies as any type of bulletin board material.
ian_a
08-16-2006, 10:41 AM
I've read countless articles by Chass that were superb... this just isn't one of them
Tyrus
08-16-2006, 11:14 AM
I'm not angry about this column at all.
He asks legitimate questions, the same freakin' questions we have been asking all year.
Can they handle the pressure? The article doesn't take any digs at the team, it just asks whether or not a team with young pitching (with the exception of Kenny) and little experience in pennant races can hang in there.
No, Folly, Chass' exact words were that the sounds Crash! Boom and Bam! should accompany the Tigers, because "Those would be the sounds of the Detroit Tigers falling apart."
That's not an impartial questioning of whether the Tigers' young team can handle the pressure -- it's a cockeyed observation that the team was falling apart after losing one stinking series. This, after the Tigers posted one of the best 100-game starts in recent history.
In other words, that column was total idiocy.
mcqfesijiba
08-16-2006, 03:26 PM
I don't think the article is necessarily idiocy. More like wishful thinking. The majority of New York fans can't stand that the Tigers are having a successful season. They, like a lot of the nation, still find it illogical that the Tigers are winning. The Tigers have gained more respect as the season has progressed, but I still see some members of the national media just waiting for the "inevitable" collapse.
Dawgs
08-16-2006, 05:40 PM
Nothing more than someone who has been waiting all year for the inevitable collapse, jumping at the first losing streak weve had since late May. Id be willing to bet more than half the baseball fans in America were saying "I told ya so" after the bad weekend.
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