Who's available via trade

[ewsieg]

This isn't to determine who we should trade for and the merits of such a trade, just who is likely available and how he can realistically be viewed as far as how much it'll cost us (prospects, money, both). I'm thinking along the lines of MLB talent already, not prospects, such as the case that DD continues to build for next year as a year to compete.

Here are a few i'm thinking of so far:

Alfonso Soriano - I'm thinking he'll cost around 8 million this year, FA after that. I'm thinking PP and prospects or just prospects depending on what Texas needs. High level prospects though and several of them I imagine.

Jim Thome - 3yrs / 40.5 million - I don't see us spending too many prospects on this if we take all the cash.

Mike Lowell - 2yrs / 18 million - With his last season, I see him similiar to Thome if we take his contract.

Griffey Jr. - Unsure of his contract, I know it's still alot. I think we'd need to pick up the cash and still send at least one top prospect plus a few lower prospects.

Joel Pineiro - Miserable season and a FA after 2006. Still alot of promise so we'd probably have to take the 6 million he's owed next year and send 1 or 2 decent prospects.

Barry Zito - Unsure of his contract, around 7-8 million and a FA after 2006. Similiar deal that we'd have to do for Soriano, even with the risk that he bolts after a year.

[gamtchll]

also: some guys possibly out there, based on reports from local papers.

lyle overbay, 1b mil
austin keans, of cin
wily mo pena, of cin
aubrey huff, of/1b drays
carlos lee, of mil
torri hunter, of min
corey koskie, 3b tor
miguel batista, cl tor
johnny estrada, c atl
mike cameron, cf nym
kaz matsui, if nym
javier vasquez, sp az
carl pavano, sp nyy

[berneree]

Kerry Wood can probably be had
$15 million 2006

MLB Player contracts (http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005_01_21_mlbcontracts_archive.html)

Phil Nevin $10 million 2006
Todd Helton $103 million 2011
Christian Guzman $12.6 million 2008

[OldTimey]

If gamtchll is right, I'd consider trading Pudge for Cameron and then trading for Estrada.

[jrampe]

Alfonso Soriano - I'm thinking he'll cost around 8 million this year, FA after that. I'm thinking PP and prospects or just prospects depending on what Texas needs. High level prospects though and several of them I imagine.


I'm not so sure I'd trade PP for Soriano straight up. Polanco gets on base much more, plays better defense, actually has a better OPS than Soriano, and strikes out much less. Soriano has more power though, but overall, I'd take PP over Soriano especially for this team.

[shamrock07]

A guy I like, not sure on his availability, is Padres reliever Scott Linebrink. He had a very good year (stats (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6455)) and would be a good set up man or even closer next year for Detroit.

But with Trevor Hoffman going to be a free agent, I wonder if the Padres want Linebrink to be closer next year.

[bibbits]

here is one--tigers and cubs---trade goes like this---ivan rodriguez and 4 million to the cubs for michael barret and corey patterson. gives 2 players a change of scenery that is probably needed. no real loss on the tigers side as far as offense in regard to rodriguez and barrett. tigers could put inge back behind the plate as the back up and use him with barrett as like a super sub. tigers get out from underneath that contract and pick up patterson. patterson could be like the reserver outfielder and just get a chance to be a left handed bat. He might get wise to some baseball playing skills if he came here. and rodriguez gets to go to a winner and get a chance to go somewhere he should have really went to back in 2004 to begin with

[djhutch]

here is one--tigers and cubs---trade goes like this---ivan rodriguez and 4 million to the cubs for michael barret and corey patterson.


You're about 2 years late on this. I wouldn't want Corey Patterson now.

[WilLedezma41]

aub huff would be a great 3b for us... trade inge,maroth and a prospect?

[zachcadillac]

Kerry Wood can probably be had
$15 million 2006

MLB Player contracts (http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005_01_21_mlbcontracts_archive.html)

Phil Nevin $10 million 2006
Todd Helton $103 million 2011
Christian Guzman $12.6 million 2008

Are you really suggesting we trade for Guzman?

[ewsieg]

Are you really suggesting we trade for Guzman?

I'm thinking he was just doing what I was doing, pointing out who is likely available. Not trying to give an argument that we need and go and get him.

[JonBenke]

some guys possibly out there, based on reports from local papers.

javier vasquez, sp az
carl pavano, sp nyy
I'm not sure on how many more years Vasquez has on his contract, but he could be that veteran gamble we'd be willing to take. His numbers are blah at best, and he is very streaky, though even when he's getting hit around, he seems to still have a nice whip. He wouldn't be my first choice, but since when have we got whomever was our first choice? And as far as Carl Pavano goes, I'd love to see on how much the Yankees would take of his contract...and for that, what they'd be willing to take. I think the change of scenery would do him well, not to mention, we wanted him last year...and there was a report that said that he wished he had come here, who knows. Again...if the Yankees are willing to pay some of his salary, against what we'd have to give up...it might be worth it to pursue. I am thinking second or third tier options here, being I doubt we get who really - REALLY WANT.


PEACE

[Cody]

If we really wanted to trade pudge we should think about getting Estrada..he is still young and has some potential if you ask me. The Braves won't want pudge so we would have to get the best we could form somewhere else and get Johnny some other way. Just a possiblity

[ballmich]

[QUOTE=ewsieg]

Jim Thome - 3yrs / 40.5 million - I don't see us spending too many prospects on this if we take all the cash.

Mike Lowell - 2yrs / 18 million - With his last season, I see him similiar to Thome if we take his contract.[QUOTE]

that's not how it works in today's game. to take on these contracts we'd need to get SOMETHING in return... unless you think aging/injured/non-performing players is something. i mean, the marlins couldn't give lowell away for free this past season (doing their best to force someone to take him with a burnett deal). for lowell, i could see two non-prospects, if they pick up $7-8 million.

i like thome better, but at only $6-7 million a season. 1B/DH should be a relatively easy position to find decent production on the cheap (only the tigers can find a way to screw this one up - e.g. paying Young $8 million/yr). and we don't have to trade away prospects or eat salary to do it. but first, we need to resolve the Young problem and make a determination on Pena. Until at least one of those happens, I don't see any major acquisitions coming at the 1B/DH position.

[jake]

We need lefthanded bats and we need to give up righthanded bats or minor league pitchers. We don't need overthehill, overpaid righthanded bats. We have plenty of those.

[gamtchll]

clarification on Vazquez's status:

almost 100% sure------he has an option in his contract, where during this offseason he can demand a trade, and if arizona does ont comply, then he automatically becomes a free agent.

"Javier Vazquez has two years left on his contract worth $24 million, but he can force Arizona to move him by March 15, according to the Arizona Republic. If not, he can become a free agent. When he makes his decision, Vazquez said he would announce it."

[gamtchll]

we need: starting pitching, nothing else...just kidding, but not really

[TigerPride]

I moved this thread up because it has a nice MLB Players contracts link.

[Auburndale Ray]

Tampa Bay really would like to unload Huff...with their main need being pitching and corner infielders...

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/05_Baseball/Studios/Devil%20Rays/Images/05HuffAubreyStudio.jpg

[JonBenke]

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/05_Baseball/Studios/Devil%20Rays/Images/05HuffAubreyStudio.jpg
Yeah -- but would an OF of Granderson, Huff, and Ordenez be worth the price though -- that is the question?

[zachcadillac]

clarification on Vazquez's status:

almost 100% sure------he has an option in his contract, where during this offseason he can demand a trade, and if arizona does ont comply, then he automatically becomes a free agent.

"Javier Vazquez has two years left on his contract worth $24 million, but he can force Arizona to move him by March 15, according to the Arizona Republic. If not, he can become a free agent. When he makes his decision, Vazquez said he would announce it."

Someone can clarify, but I do not believe this is a clause specific to Vasquez's deal. I think it applies to all players traded in the middle of a multiyear contract.

[JonBenke]

Yeah, see -- I could have sworn I read it had something to do with Vazquez's actual deal...when coming from New York, could be wrong.

Either way, we don't have what they want...at least I don't think we do.