M E S S A G E T O M I C H A E L

[eastside billee]

Dear Mr. Moore,

K I S S

M Y


G R I T S !!!

[Yoda]

Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And may you choke on your next happy meal.

[belcherboy]

Has anyone heard from this guy?? I'd like to see his reaction to the election.

[TigerCap]

Originally posted by belcherboy
Has anyone heard from this guy?? I'd like to see his reaction to the election.
I'll gladly help him move. Since Iraq was such a peaceful oasis, maybe he'd like to take residence somewhere like Syria. He doesn't like money anyway. It's only a few hour drive to Flint.

[TigerCap]

Moore is one of the best reasons Bush won. Which democrat ever told him to reign in the hate, lies or encouraging-to-terroists rhetoric? Had he won, some politicians would have been encouraged by the likes and strategy of people like him. It backfired and people aren't buying it or liking it.

[DetroitFolly]

Personally, I hope he keeps doing what he does.

Make movies, keep people's feet to the fire, and conintue to make it entertaining.

This is America. Say, and do what you want.

[holygoat]

Originally posted by DetroitFolly
Personally, I hope he keeps doing what he does.

Make movies, keep people's feet to the fire, and conintue to make it entertaining.

This is America. Say, and do what you want.

I hope he keeps doing it, too, although for completely different reasons. Guys like Moore do more damage to the guys they support than to those they target.

[eastside billee]

This is America. Say, and do what you want.

I have to agree with you Detroit Folly - however, to every action there is a reaction......so what he says and does may inspire me to absolutely detest the guy, his beliefs, lies and 2nd rate movies and express my own opinions thereof.

[DetroitFolly]

I didn't say anything about your reaction.

I simply said that I hope he keeps doing what he's doing.

I'm not mad at your reaction. If he pisses people off, then he figures hes doing something right.

so be it.

He's going after HMO's next.

[belcherboy]

Originally posted by DetroitFolly
He's going after HMO's next.

I wonder what the reaction to his future movies will be. Before 9/11 I really knew little about him (I had heard about some inaccuracies in Columbine). The little I had heard about him was usually positive things. Now I think many more people view him as being too strongly politically motivated in his documentaries and therefore compromises the accuracy of those films. IMHO, I think he has reached his peak with 9/11 and I don't suspect he will have a great deal of success in his future "documentaries". I could be wrong and maybe he will surprise me with the size of his following....I just think most are pretty much tired of him. We shall see.

[Hongbit]

Things started to move downhill for everything that Moore was preaching about the same time he started showing up at every event wearing a UCLA hat. He never should've changed from the Spartan Block "S" lid that he was wearing on the press tour right after F911 came out.

[Auburndale Ray]

Perhaps Moore will stick around...and in 2008 he can motivate the Republicans to vote in record numbers...and win again...

The Democrats calling these types..."the heart and soul of America"...helped precipitate their loss...

The Democrats will probably hang out with the Hollywood crowd...and the elitists...and the lunatic fringe again during the next election cycle...I doubt they will ever learn...

[shabba4detroit]

Originally posted by DetroitFolly
Personally, I hope he keeps doing what he does.

Make movies, keep people's feet to the fire, and conintue to make it entertaining.

This is America. Say, and do what you want.


When is he going to start to make it entertaining?

If I want to be entertained by a fat guy act like a know-it-all jackhole with his half-baked conspiracy theories, my house has mirrors. Why the hell do I need Michael Moore?

[black_sandals]

www.michaelmoore.com

His silly website is taken down and replaced by a mosaic of the President made up of Iraq war casualties.

I find it distasteful.

[DetroitFolly]

I find this war distasteful.

Its his form of protest.

[shabba4detroit]

Maybe he should try a hunger strike. Then maybe I would stop believing that he was a mere opportunist and actually gave a damn about the war and the troops.

[DetroitFolly]

So a hunger strike is a better form of protest? I disagree.

As for a hunger strike...it sure would last a long time, huh?

:classic:

[djhutch]

Originally posted by TigerCap
I'll gladly help him move. Since Iraq was such a peaceful oasis, maybe he'd like to take residence somewhere like Syria. He doesn't like money anyway. It's only a few hour drive to Flint.

Syria would be a walk in the park compared to Flint these days.

[Amish Love Machine]

Moore is an ***.

[eastside billee]

Hey Amish,

I think Moore is an asterisk too (emphasis on the first two letters). So lets send him over to Iraq where he can risk his***!

[Auburndale Ray]

http://jsoda.blogfodder.net/files/Michael%20Moore.gif

[Yoda]

http://members.optusnet.com.au/evilpundit/blog/images/michael-moore-fugly.jpg

[belcherboy]

Originally posted by DetroitFolly
I find this war distasteful.

Its his form of protest.

Well you haven't made up documented lies in your protest. I have no problem with protest, but when you deceitfully manipulate things to further your protest, than your protest becomes counterproductive IMO. That is my assessment of Michael Moore and his future "protests" he calls documentaries.

[shabba4detroit]

Originally posted by DetroitFolly
So a hunger strike is a better form of protest? I disagree.

As for a hunger strike...it sure would last a long time, huh?

:classic:


A hunger strike wouldn't be one of his usual for-profit protests. He might gain credibility if his "protests" -- books, films, speaking tours -- didn't all go right to his bottom line. He's in it for the good of Michael Moore and no one else, IMHO.

[baseballbruce30]

Originally posted by eastside billee
Hey Amish,

I think Moore is an asterisk too (emphasis on the first two letters). So lets send him over to Iraq where he can risk his***!

eastside billee - I'll supply Moore with a parachute for a nighttime HALO jump ... :cheeky: :devious:

[qsilvr2531]

IMHO, I think he has reached his peak with 9/11

That's almost certainly true, if onyl because it was arguably the most successfull documentary in history. If only we all could "peak" at that level of success.

[dschonbe]

This all seems silly. If the election had gone the other way, you could likely replace all instances of "Michael Moore" with "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth."

Both sides lie. Both sides cheat. If you like Bush, just be happy he won.

[belcherboy]

Originally posted by qsilvr2531
That's almost certainly true, if onyl because it was arguably the most successfull documentary in history. If only we all could "peak" at that level of success.


Very true, but I don't believe Moore measures his success on the box office. I think he measures his success on publicity and his ability to influence change. I think he might have blown that with 9/11.

[Microline133]

Originally posted by belcherboy
Very true, but I don't believe Moore measures his success on the box office. I think he measures his success on publicity and his ability to influence change. I think he might have blown that with 9/11.

I think Moore started to lose his influence and ability to create change with some of the inaccuracies/controversy surrounding Bowling for Columbine. FH911 simply magnified the downward spiral his influence on change is going to have.

After Roger And Me and The Big One, he had the opportunity to become a very informative and influential person in both the public and political eye...unfortunately it went to his head, and he didn't stick with what made him successful.....

[qsilvr2531]

Very true, but I don't believe Moore measures his success on the box office. I think he measures his success on publicity and his ability to influence change. I think he might have blown that with 9/11.

I'm a notorious cycnic, but I think Michael Moore measures his success in the box office, and his publicity and ability to influence change are simply ways for him to gain more money at the box office.

[qsilvr2531]

After Roger And Me and The Big One, he had the opportunity to become a very informative and influential person in both the public and political eye...unfortunately it went to his head, and he didn't stick with what made him successful.....

Except he was arguably more successull by not sticking with those things. Depends on how you measure success I guess.

[Microline133]

Originally posted by qsilvr2531
Except he was arguably more successull by not sticking with those things. Depends on how you measure success I guess.

Yeah...it depends whether his ultimate goal was to continue gaining influence and creating change, or whether his goal was simply to make money....if the latter was his goal, then he made the proper move in strategy....if the former was his goal, then I feel he is in the process of failing miserably...

[Yoda]

I don't like the guy but I also don't think money has anything to do with what he does.

[JonBenke]

Michael Moore should never make another movie again -- ever.

How dare he point out how corrupt the people who run this country are!!

I spit on you Michael Moore -- (insert spitting noise, two times) :ninja:

[SweetLou]

Originally posted by Microline133
Yeah...it depends whether his ultimate goal was to continue gaining influence and creating change, or whether his goal was simply to make money....if the latter was his goal, then he made the proper move in strategy....if the former was his goal, then I feel he is in the process of failing miserably...




I thought I read a while back that 60% of the gross would go to different charities? So I definitely don't think money is his motivator.

[wingedwheel]

I don't like Michael Moore. He's self-righteous, smug, and a big fat doody-head.

[estrepe1]

Originally posted by JonBenke
How dare he point out how corrupt the people who run this country are!!

Maybe he should point out how corrupt he is next?

[TigerCap]

Originally posted by JonBenke
Michael Moore should never make another movie again -- ever.

How dare he point out how corrupt the people who run this country are!!

I spit on you Michael Moore -- (insert spitting noise, two times) :ninja:
That's the common misunderstanding of those that despise him. The problem is in pointing out "corruption" that doesn't exist and (worse) blatently lying, misquoting and splicing unrelated footage together to try to make that point.
We need corruption exposed, but curruption exposed by means that are corruptive is wrong.
On second thought: keep it up - he's popular because of his irrational hate, but easy to debunk - he certainly energizes those that seek the truth as much as those motivated by hate.

[SweetLou]

Originally posted by TigerCap
That's the common misunderstanding of those that despise him. The problem is in pointing out "corruption" that doesn't exist and (worse) blatently lying, misquoting and splicing unrelated footage together to try to make that point.
We need corruption exposed, but curruption exposed by means that are corruptive is wrong.
On second thought: keep it up - he's popular because of his irrational hate, but easy to debunk - he certainly energizes those that seek the truth as much as those motivated by hate.



So who's gonna point out the "blatent lying, and misquoting done by our political parties? I find it humorous how Michael Moore does something that you construe as "corrupt," yet you turn a blind eye to goings on in your political party. Putting two and two together is hardly corrupt. When O.J. was being tried in a court of law, we all looked at the evidence and said he did it. When it's someone or something you believe in you tend to look the other way.

[belcherboy]

Originally posted by SweetLou
So who's gonna point out the "blatent lying, and misquoting done by our political parties?


parties??? You mean political party?? (cough....conservatives...cough....republicans)

Even if Michael Moore was not biased in his "documentaries", he makes crazy accusations with little to no real proof. He does seem hit the nail on the head at times, but some of the things I've watched in his movies and read about his movies are blatantly misleading which causes me to seriously question anything he says and it's more than just a few things.:confused:

[TigerCap]

Originally posted by SweetLou
So who's gonna point out the "blatent lying, and misquoting done by our political parties? I find it humorous how Michael Moore does something that you construe as "corrupt," yet you turn a blind eye to goings on in your political party. Putting two and two together is hardly corrupt. When O.J. was being tried in a court of law, we all looked at the evidence and said he did it. When it's someone or something you believe in you tend to look the other way.
Such as...

[belcherboy]

Michael Moore has posted his post election thoughts on his website:

www.michaelmoore.com

[lesgoblu02]

Originally posted by belcherboy
Michael Moore has posted his post election thoughts on his website:

www.michaelmoore.com

Way to exploit those that fought and died to get your "message" across.

As a current member of the military, this man disgusts me and has IMO reached an all time low.

P.O.S.

[shabba4detroit]

Originally posted by SweetLou
So who's gonna point out the "blatent lying, and misquoting done by our political parties? I find it humorous how Michael Moore does something that you construe as "corrupt," yet you turn a blind eye to goings on in your political party. Putting two and two together is hardly corrupt. When O.J. was being tried in a court of law, we all looked at the evidence and said he did it. When it's someone or something you believe in you tend to look the other way.


Actually, with regard to OJ, it was the jury that looked at the evidence, and said he didn't do it. We looked at what the media showed us, skewed through their pro-prosecution analysis, dissected and interpreted by numerous pundits who told us what to think. I find it fascinating that the only 12 people in America who didn't get to view the evidence through the media's filters, came to the opposite conclusion of the rest of us.

[Mattingly70]

Originally posted by shabba4detroit
Actually, with regard to OJ, it was the jury that looked at the evidence, and said he didn't do it. We looked at what the media showed us, skewed through their pro-prosecution analysis, dissected and interpreted by numerous pundits who told us what to think. I find it fascinating that the only 12 people in America who didn't get to view the evidence through the media's filters, came to the opposite conclusion of the rest of us.

It's stuff like this that keeps me from putting you on ignore. Spot on.

[laverty]

Actually, with regard to OJ, it was the jury that looked at the evidence, and said he didn't do it. We looked at what the media showed us, skewed through their pro-prosecution analysis, dissected and interpreted by numerous pundits who told us what to think. I find it fascinating that the only 12 people in America who didn't get to view the evidence through the media's filters, came to the opposite conclusion of the rest of us.

Well said

[MotownRandy]

Belcherboy, stop posting lies.

[belcherboy]

Originally posted by MotownRandy
Belcherboy, stop posting lies.

???

[belcherboy]

17 Reasons Not to Slit Your Wrists...by Michael Moore

Dear Friends,

Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. But before you go and cash it all in, let's, in the words of Monty Python, “always look on the bright side of life!” There IS some good news from Tuesday's election.

Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists:

1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.

2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.

4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don’t approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%). (Note to foreigners: Don't try to figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.)

5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.

6. Michigan voted for Kerry! So did the entire Northeast, the birthplace of our democracy. So did 6 of the 8 Great Lakes States. And the whole West Coast! Plus Hawaii. Ok, that's a start. We've got most of the fresh water, all of Broadway, and Mt. St. Helens. We can dehydrate them or bury them in lava. And no more show tunes!

7. Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not just any old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled by a poisonous nut. May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when it faces Michigan.

8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn't such a long time! If you're ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly golden and you will be well cared for in your old age.

9. Gays, thanks to the ballot measures passed on Tuesday, cannot get married in 11 new states. Thank God. Just think of all those wedding gifts we won't have to buy now.

10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress, including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It's always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates can't.

11. The CEO of Coors was defeated for Senate in Colorado. Drink up!

12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.

13. At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3 chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the 2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53 chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47 chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber (Montana House) is still undecided.

14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at the ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ***.

15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country down a very dark road, it is also just as likely that either of the following two scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't ever need to pander to the Christian conservatives again to get elected, someone may whisper in his ear that he should spend these last four years building "a legacy" so that history will render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push for too aggressive a right-wing agenda; or b) He will become so cocky and arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a blunder of such major proportions that even his own party will have to remove him from office.

16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies are coming!!!

17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news is that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact, that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November 2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of surprise in 2008.

Feeling better? I hope so. As my friend Mort wrote me yesterday, "My Romanian grandfather used to say to me, 'Remember, Morton, this is such a wonderful country -- it doesn't even need a president!'"

But it needs us. Rest up, I'll write you again tomorrow.

Yours,

Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
www.michaelmoore.com

[shabba4detroit]

He's already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ***.


Finally. I found some truth coming out of Michael Moore's mouth.:classic:

[TigerCap]

Who is this Michael Moore guy? The name kind of rings a bell...


4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don’t approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%).

more fun with "facts".


Doggone it, because of the last few months I don't wear my Tiger hat on trips because of Michael. I no longer root for the Red Sox and NOW I have to root for OSU against Michigan saturday.

[DetroitFolly]

He's really good at pissing off the right wingers, isn't he?

[black_sandals]

I still don't like him, but:

12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.

There are some things nobody will argue with.

And:

5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.

He is actually willing to take a shot at the democrats now and then.

And despite disagreeing with him on most of his other opinions, I'll probably be checking his site again simply because I'm curious what he has to say. I guess that's what he wants.

[TigerCap]

Originally posted by DetroitFolly
He's really good at pissing off the right wingers, isn't he?
I'm disgusted by hatred and lies. He is easy to debunk, however. Most Republicans distance themselves from extremists like this, it's sad that "mainstream" liberals embrace his extremism.

[DetroitFolly]

He's really good at pissing off the right wingers, isn't he?

[TigerCap]

Originally posted by DetroitFolly
He's really good at pissing off the right wingers, isn't he?
Am I to believe that that, in itself - regardless of method or integrity, is an admirable thing?
I wouldn't think that's how you feel. I certainly don't cheer extreme right-wingers.

[SweetLou]

Originally posted by shabba4detroit
Actually, with regard to OJ, it was the jury that looked at the evidence, and said he didn't do it. We looked at what the media showed us, skewed through their pro-prosecution analysis, dissected and interpreted by numerous pundits who told us what to think. I find it fascinating that the only 12 people in America who didn't get to view the evidence through the media's filters, came to the opposite conclusion of the rest of us.




So what are you saying Shabba? The media is anti-Bush AND anti-O.J.:classic:

[shabba4detroit]

Originally posted by DetroitFolly
He's really good at pissing off the right wingers, isn't he?

So was Sid. What's your point?

[shabba4detroit]

Originally posted by SweetLou
So what are you saying Shabba? The media is anti-Bush AND anti-O.J.:classic:


Uhhh .... sure.:classic:

[shabba4detroit]

12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.


http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041103/i/r308466963.jpg


Must have been chilly that morning.

[MotownRandy]

Originally posted by belcherboy
???

Everytime someone talks about Michael Moore they say he is lying. I was just continuing the trend...(and mocking them).

[shabba4detroit]

Originally posted by MotownRandy
Everytime someone talks about Michael Moore they say he is lying. I was just continuing the trend...(and mocking them).


Your sarcasm may have been too subtle. I for one didn't get it. Further, I think Belcherboy one of the more thoughtful and trustworthy posters on this board, and was really confused. That being said, if all your jokes were funny, you'd have a sitcom on the WB by now.:classic:

[DetroitFolly]

Originally posted by TigerCap
Am I to believe that that, in itself - regardless of method or integrity, is an admirable thing?
I wouldn't think that's how you feel. I certainly don't cheer extreme right-wingers.

My point is...for someone that you obviously have no respect, admiration, or trust, you folks certainly spend a lot of time whining about the guy.

Don't you know, the best way to get rid of someone is to ignore him.

Anyway, I just chuckle a bit at how worked up people get about the guy.

As for the "extreme right wingers..." there's folks to the right of YOU cap?

:classic:

[eastside billee]

Number one : The Bush girls look much
better than Kerry's, who
tend to resemble Fred
Gwynn also.

Number two: Michael Moore has no
room to make fun of
anyone, considering
he's a fat disgusting
pig of a man, who
dresses like a slob
ALL THE TIME. He's
a pseudo-intellectual
who probably acted
the same way at
College as he does
now. He just needs
to go away...Please..
make him go away.

[TigerCap]

Originally posted by DetroitFolly
My point is...for someone that you obviously have no respect, admiration, or trust, you folks certainly spend a lot of time whining about the guy.

Don't you know, the best way to get rid of someone is to ignore him.

Anyway, I just chuckle a bit at how worked up people get about the guy.

As for the "extreme right wingers..." there's folks to the right of YOU cap?

:classic:
:classic:

You're putting me in a tough spot. (1) I could ignore him, but I don't think he's going away - and I believe his rhetoric is dangerous considering how many young kids believed the rumors about the draft - they're are certainly many that bite on his trash. (2) Debunk and spread the truth and be accused of getting worked up about a moron.
damned if we do; damned if we don't.

How many extreme right-wingers do you know that favor decriminalization of pot or have the entire James collection or watch Crank Yankers :classic:

[Oblong]

http://www.hogonice.com/Pixes/mooreassmosaic.jpg

[treyKemper]

3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.



I remember when I was a freshman in high school and hung around with this one senior because he had a car and access to beer. Man, that dude was a loser.

[Yoda]

16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies are coming!!!

Someone needs to explain football to him. THE GAME IS OVER. You don't get to start at the 3-yeard line the next time you play. It's over. You lost. Ask the Titans.

[DetroitFolly]

The game is never over.

[NotoriousCPC]

Originally posted by TigerCap
Who is this Michael Moore guy? The name kind of rings a bell...


4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don’t approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%).

more fun with "facts".


Doggone it, because of the last few months I don't wear my Tiger hat on trips because of Michael. I no longer root for the Red Sox and NOW I have to root for OSU against Michigan saturday.

Those "facts" are indeed facts, TigerCap. Insomuch that they are what polls had been indicating for weeks before the election. Those numbers were often cited by liberals (in support of a Kerry election) and even conservatives (in support of a Kerry character assassination).

That is what bugs me about people who hate Michael Moore. They complain about his tactics, but when he does something totally legitimate as he did above people just say that he is lying. There is a lot to be bothered with in regards to Moore, but complaining about these "facts" is not one of them.

[TigerCap]

Originally posted by NotoriousCPC

That is what bugs me about people who hate Michael Moore. They complain about his tactics, but when he does something totally legitimate as he did above people just say that he is lying. There is a lot to be bothered with in regards to Moore, but complaining about these "facts" is not one of them.

It's called credibility loss. And, he earned it.

My complaint is that he did not cite where those percentages came from. I have heard different percentages for similar/same questions and they were all 50+% in the President's favor. It "smells" like his typical statements where it sounds factual but isn't. Maybe they are legit, but he should back them up.

[eastside billee]

your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.

Now that's a mature statement. However, maybe you're right - maybe YOUR parents are always wrong. Mine were right on the money and if I would've listened to them, I would'nt have wasted 15 years of my life digging out of a mess that could've been avoided.

If a big fat Republican (as Rush Limbaugh used to be) came out and spoke up against Democrats - they'd just call him a fool, a jerk and a fat pig. However, Limbaugh has been correct 90% of the time. I can't think that Michael Moore has been right that often.

Whatever, I'm exhausted with this subject.

Moore helped ruin the Democratic chances as far as I'm concerned, and I'm glad he did. AND - I'm not a Republican - I'm a total Libertarian with Jeffersonian Liberal leanings.