[Buddha]

Originally Posted by Stormin' Norman

Re watch the games. Stafford led long, 90+ drives. He didn't force one throw, he didn't throw the ball into bad coverage once in those two games. Stafford played excellently against Chicago in Washington.

I've seen all of his games except for yesterdays. He's had moments where he looked good and lots of moments where he looked bad, just like most rookie QBs.

He's got a big arm, isn't consistent in his accuracy, and lacks touch on many of his short-range/intermediate passes. He's looked better against pressure than I thought he would.

To say he played excellently against two bad defenses doesn't say much to me. And I would dispute how excellent he played against Chicago. I think he looked ok, good for a rookie, but not a world beater at QB by any means.

No. Why would I concede the CURRENT Lions administration is bad at talent evaluation when I look at the production of the guys they DID draft. Unlike most Lions fans, I am not going to point out the bad while ignoring the good.

IMO, you overrate playing time on this team as some sort of barometer as to how good someone is. This team has very little talent I would label as "good." They have a few average players. As such, beating them out for playing time isn't indicative of how good they are, as much as it indicates how poor the team was when they showed up.

Sammie Hill is a good example. I liked the Hill pick, it was my favorite pick of the draft. However, the fact that he's playing now doesn't mean it was a good pick, it means they have NOTHING at DT.

Same with Levy (I didn't like the pick). He's shown flashes, but he's playing because Ernie Sims and Jordan Dizon aren't very good, not because he's some all-world talent. Follett is playing on special teams. Brown gets an occasional run-out as a third-down back. Murtha got snapped up before he could show us all his all-pro talent.

These aren't signs of how great the Lions draft class was, it's signs that they had no talent on the roster to begin with.

And Stafford, Delmas and Pettigrew BETTER be starting to justify their draft positions (with the possible exception of Stafford because he's a QB, but again, the Lions are so bereft of talent at the QB position that Stafford has to start.)

Oher obviously does look like the player they should have picked, but so what? Nothing we can do will change that, and nothing the Lions can do will change that. If I am going to get to the point that I am going to dismiss an administration for passing on a single player that now, in hindsight, looks like the right pick - then I wouldn't bother to care in the first place.

Ok, this doesn't mean anything to me other than "I'm not going to question the Lions front office because if I did I shouldn't care." That doesn't make any sense to me. Of course you can look back in hindsight and say they should have drafted Oher. What does that have to do with caring about the team? Nothing.

Passing on Michael Oher was a mistake...untill they pick another player that can fill his void. And I see no reason to doubt the current administration for their ability to fill that void. I know others will, but their opinion doesn't effect my own.

Based on what? This year's draft? Picking up old *** Anthony Henry for a solid back up QB? Picking up old *** Maurice Morris? Making a wash trade of Redding for Peterson? Picking up old *** Larry Foote?

I would say there is not enough evidence to judge the current administration positively OR negatively.

Bill Parcells happens to think so.

He does? Dollars to donuts that Murtha never becomes anything in the NFL other than a practice squad player or a back-up tackle that plays in the last few games of a season due to injuries then is cut the next year.

I said Matt Millen gave this team more talent than his is credited for. I think the future of this team rests upon the Stafford-Johnson connection. Johnson was a Millen pick.

That still flabbergasts me. The Lions have more talent than other teams at 0 positions, including wide receiver. They might be average at wide receiver because Johnson has ability, but the rest really weigh the unit down.

Let's not get into another Millen left this team with talent argument because I hate to see people taking shots at you and cruzer again.

Last weeks game wasn't a good game by Stafford, but it wasn't horrible either. Stafford clearly got frustrated and his accuracy suffered for it, but he was still making good throws that were then dropped by his receivers.

He was also making very ****** throws that they couldn't catch.

This was the first game you can look at and identify Stafford play as a weakness for this team.

That is literally an insane comment to make. You say you watch other games, and I'm inclined to believe you, but I can't imagine anyone watching 20+ teams in the NFL would say that Stafford and the QB position aren't a weakness for the Lions this season. It's OBVIOUSLY a weakness! He isn't very good at this point.

Stafford could have 5 more games like the one he just had and you'd still say he was awesome.